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On Nov 5, 2018, Kaliix wrote:
Serious question, how long do you think it takes to make the gimmick on the download?


You're right--it's surely a quick operation. And if the matchbook cards supplied with Lit were all the same, it would be a good solution. But as each card is different, you would need to find a dupe, make the gimmick, temporarily remove the other card from the deck for each performance, then either throw away or carefully peel apart the gimmick and remake it for the next performance. No, not brain surgery, but just a bit more hassle than seems necessary. With my sticky card idea, you could just make a joker with a sticky back, and use the same deck over and over, forcing a different card from the bottom each time. It just seems like a more practical solution for an effect that is almost identical. Do you think that doing it this way would lessen or change the effect significantly?
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On Nov 5, 2018, Kaliix wrote:
Serious question, how long do you think it takes to make the gimmick on the download?


You're right--it's surely a quick operation. And if the matchbook cards supplied with Lit were all the same, it would be a good solution. But as each card is different, you would need to find a dupe, make the gimmick, temporarily remove the other card from the deck for each performance, then either throw away or carefully peel apart the gimmick and remake it for the next performance. No, not brain surgery, but just a bit more hassle than seems necessary. With my sticky card idea, you could just make a joker with a sticky back, and use the same deck over and over, forcing a different card from the bottom each time. It just seems like a more practical solution for an effect that is almost identical. Do you think that doing it this way would lessen or change the effect significantly?


Yeah, if you give away the card each time and you are performing multiple times a night, I think the sticky card idea is better. I don't think it matters how you force the card, just as long as you can prove it's gone, it wouldn't lessen or change the effect at all (imho).

I also agree that the deck could have come with like two sets of 26 cards so one could use the same gimmick to vanish, switching when needed to use a different card. That was kinda what I was expecting to be honest...
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On Nov 5, 2018, Kaliix wrote:
I also agree that the deck could have come with like two sets of 26 cards so one could use the same gimmick to vanish, switching when needed to use a different card. That was kinda what I was expecting to be honest...


Me too. I have no idea why they're all different. A bit mystifying. And I also agree with your earlier comment that the vanish is not a major part of the effect, which is why I think doing it in the simplest, most practical way possible is best.

Thanks for weighing in!

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The method I use is SF spray as opposed to sticky.
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The method I use is SF spray as opposed to sticky.


I haven't used SF. Does it need to be applied to both surfaces, like R&S, or is one enough?
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Just the single key card that can be used continuously to hide their chosen card.
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Just the single key card that can be used continuously to hide their chosen card.


Cool, thanks! I haven't invested in SF yet, but I did just pick up a can of Plasti-Dip, and I'm looking forward to experimenting. Apartment living makes it tough to find a good time to spray cards though...
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I don't have this new version of Lit but I purchased it years ago on the first release, so I'm not sure what new things they may have went over on this dvd but you could always vanish the selected card by using any version of the Biddle trick. I have performed it quite a few times using Biddleless by John Guastafarro only instead of revealing the card back in the deck it has traveled to the matchbook just like the match did previously. It has always gone over well. I've also used the gimmick you mention above. It's great but when you don't have it available, the Biddle trick is a nice alternative.
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