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servant Regular user Texas 101 Posts |
Okay, so this debate reminded me of (don't shoot!) that whole Individual Mandate discussion when the Affordable Healthcare Act was passed (in the USA).
The politicians, on one hand, say it's not a tax, but the politicians' lawyers defend it before the Supreme Court as a tax. However, it's not a tax, it's a penalty. How can you tax something you never purchased? Yes, no, both, maybe, aaahhhhhI don't know. My brain's atoms are about to split! . . . |
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Patrice New user FRANCE, Normandy, Rouen 19 Posts |
The idea of this trick is good... but the explanation is wrong.... Rick Lax ask the first spectator to select a number between "20 and 40"...
Try "20" or some other numbers up to 20... If you follow the given instructions for the second spectator, you'll be very disappointed... |
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ManchurianMan83 Veteran user United Kingdom 305 Posts |
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On Aug 29, 2018, Patrice wrote: ??? All numbers from 20 - 40 work. I've tested them all. Including the extremes, 20 and 40. As long as the second spectator is given the correct range as explained in the video, the method works perfectly fine. |
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servant Regular user Texas 101 Posts |
Twenty isn't between 20 and 40. The numbers 21 through 39 are between 20 and 40.
But I'm a coder, so this detail matters. I'm not sure if it matters for the presentation. |
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novasteeple Regular user 170 Posts |
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On Aug 29, 2018, Patrice wrote: There's a whole thread on this at http://www.penguinmagic.com/q/how-does-i......0de266fa for people who own the effect. People who don't shouldn't need to get into the details at that level. |
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The great Gumbini Inner circle 3060 Posts |
Well all I know is this everytime without fail that I've performed this it has been received extremely well and I love the responses so take that for what it's worth I would definitely buy this trick all over again if I didn't know the secret to it.
Good magic to all, Eric |
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magicthoughts New user 35 Posts |
I gave it a shot and looks good to me. Excited to try it!
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Patrice New user FRANCE, Normandy, Rouen 19 Posts |
I don't want to reveal the trick but...
Let's imagine that the first spectator choose number 21... that is between 20 and 40 Now, according to the instructions given by Rick Lax, you can imagine that the second spectator takes 25 cards off the deck... the trick will not work... |
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novasteeple Regular user 170 Posts |
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On Aug 29, 2018, Patrice wrote: There's a whole thread on this at http://www.penguinmagic.com/q/how-does-i......0de266fa for people who own the effect. People who don't shouldn't need to get into the details at that level. |
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Slackerking Special user 613 Posts |
The positive reviews from people who have bought this far outweigh the negative from all I’ve read here and other places. Like 9 positive to every one negative and yet somehow the negative posters have managed to keep this thread near the top of the forum for weeks. We get it, a few of you don’t like it, don’t understand it and it isn’t for you. Let it go. I’ve never understood why some people are so determined to try and change people’s opinion about a magic trick. it’s not like you’re arguing about politics.
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farmerkarl New user 62 Posts |
Politics should be discussed as well as well as the other taboo topics. Face it Rick is cool the trick rocks. This is the bomb. Get your number and start showing cards. Good trick.
Thanks Rick (et al) I like it karl |
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
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On Aug 29, 2018, Slackerking wrote: People are probably discussing their opinion of a magic trick on here because this is a forum to discuss magic tricks, not a politics forum. Just a wild guess. |
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RCarruth Veteran user Spartanburg, S.C. 341 Posts |
You ask the second spectator to take off a small packet of cards. They will usually take off 10-12... Not a problem, for me at least.
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Patrice New user FRANCE, Normandy, Rouen 19 Posts |
The problem is not to change people's opinion and to keep this thread near the top of the forum but just to inform people.
Give a look to the number of my post... I own this trick and was very happy with it... but when I heard that in some cases, the trick would not work, I verified and I found that it was true. Then I'm not sure to go on using it. Some French people have sometimes(often) a very special relationship with Magic. They try to "play" with the magician. Ask them to take a number between 20 and 40 and they will choose 20 or 21... According to Rick Lax's instructions, ask a second person to take less than half of the deck and they will take exactly 26 cards. It is not my fault if the trick don't work in these case (and some few other cases)... I read many assumptions on this post about this trick - from people who don't know how it works - The trailer has many cuts and people imagine how this effect works... The idea is really good (and I really like Rick Lax's magic) but just be aware that this trick does not work every time... And what about performing a trick if you are not sure that it will do the job and that you have no other way to end it ? |
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
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On Aug 29, 2018, Slackerking wrote: Suck it up or leave the cafè. |
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novasteeple Regular user 170 Posts |
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On Aug 30, 2018, Patrice wrote: Have you read the thread at http://www.penguinmagic.com/q/how-does-i......0de266fa ? It explains what to do in the circumstances you describe. |
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
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On Aug 30, 2018, Patrice wrote: Thank you for your posts, Patrice. Truly a magician helping other magicians. I hope Rick Lax will be offering refunds. |
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Patrice New user FRANCE, Normandy, Rouen 19 Posts |
Novasteeple gave an interesting link to solve the problem...
Many thanks to him. The instructions video for the trick does not explain that - in some cases - you can't apply the method explained. |
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
The video does show it. Can't believe how many people don't pay attention.
Jim |
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Patrice New user FRANCE, Normandy, Rouen 19 Posts |
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On Aug 30, 2018, J-Mac wrote: The video shows the general method with the subtlety to succeed... Nowhere in the video is explained the fact that, sometimes, you have to adapt the method... |
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