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Jared Inner circle Rhode Island, USA 1579 Posts |
[quote]On Oct 22, 2018 "BTW, I own Flexion by Jon Allen, but I never liked the prop as it needs considerable physical strength to make a simple flat key to bend. It lacks the desired mechanical leverage needed, as the prop as well as the key are short in length and thus you don't get the desired leverage. But that's just me, others experience may vary.
I own Flexion as well and agree that it required too much physical effort to bend a key. You shouldn't have to grimace in front of your audience! However, while I was playing around with the gimmick I discovered a solution and that employs 'part' of the gimmick that is supplied with Guy Bavli's 'Perfect Key Bending Trick'. Honestly, the keys bend like butter. I worked out every last detail including the choreography that's been battle-tested in the field. One of these days, I will try to make a short video tutorial that I can share with the community. |
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Dirk Pershing New user 5 Posts |
Found some answers on (no surprise) You Tube.
This trick is not for me. |
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Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts |
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On Oct 24, 2018, Jared wrote: Thank you for the suggestion and sharing your idea. I too have Bavli's - Perfect Key Bending Trick. However IMO (other's opinion may vary) if you are using the Bavli's Perfect Key Bender you don't need the Flexion gimmick. The Bavli's bender can do the bending with much less effort as compared to the Flexion. By using the combination (Flexion + Key Bender) it becomes a two part device. Instead I would suggest using the QB3 (I have the QB2, but know all about the QB3 - Thanks to Mr. John Sheets) which IMO is a very versatile and practical prop for bending coins and for bending as well as twisting keys. Just MY personal opinion. Quote:
On Oct 24, 2018, Jared wrote: Love to see the video tutorial as to how you worked out the details and the choreography. Thanks for your time and efforts in advance. Quote:
On Oct 24, 2018, Dirk Pershing wrote: That's quite a discouraging statement. OK, after watching THIS review video I am quite disappointed. Sorry - NOT FOR ME. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6SIlF_ycrc
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magicinsight Inner circle 4306 Posts |
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On Oct 24, 2018, Dirk Pershing wrote: I agree.
“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
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PendletonThe3rd Special user 973 Posts |
Ok..went on youtube to search for this video. I think its this one the above poster is referring to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6SIlF_ycrc It has to be a joke. Acid? Cmon... |
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magicinsight Inner circle 4306 Posts |
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On Oct 24, 2018, Ustaad wrote: I agree with your last comment as well. Michael
“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
—Hakim, Loreweaver |
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PendletonThe3rd Special user 973 Posts |
Cmon guys...it has to be a joke. Or an intended fake review to throw off the scent to the real method. It completely contradicts the ad copy.
Plus, Kaan does legit reviews here on the Café so I highly doubt he would reveal an actual method. Something as silly as the one he described is obviously a joke or misdirect. |
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Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts |
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On Oct 24, 2018, PendletonThe3rd wrote: Quote:
On Oct 24, 2018, PendletonThe3rd wrote: I and my many friends have always trusted Kaan's magic reviews and opinion. They are honest and spot on. Hopefully this review is not a joke or misdirect. But, in case it's so, such reviews can act as a double edged weapon which can directly affect sales (rather badly affect sales) of a newly released magic product.
MAGIC is a SECRET, without the SECRET there is no MAGIC.
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PendletonThe3rd Special user 973 Posts |
Either it's a joke/misdirect...or he is now in the business of revealing/exposing magic on his new "Magician reveals magic" series.
I believe it is the former. The gimmick he describes is not consistent with the copy: Gimmick hides in plain sight! Nothing to conceal, add or ditch. No Preparations. No Reset. It's always be ready for you to perform-on-the-fly! Hassle-free gimmick. |
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Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts |
OK, you have a logical reason to suggest it's a joke or misdirect. And in case that be so, this review by Kaan is sure going to affect the sale of this newly released effect badly. I have no doubts in that. However I still fully trust Kaan and his reviews.
Let's wait and watch, and the truth will be out soon.
MAGIC is a SECRET, without the SECRET there is no MAGIC.
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RichOrvec Regular user 133 Posts |
Wow. That review video is 100% a joke. I saw the gimmick and held it in my hands. I still have all my fingers.
If there really was a liquid solution that could temporarily soften metal, I’m pretty sure the first the world heard of it would not be through a magic/mentalism release. Also, even if one were gullible enough to believe that, there would most certainly be a disclaimer in the ad. |
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Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts |
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On Oct 24, 2018, RichOrvec wrote: I am sure people are going to hold their wallets nice and tight till they are sure as to what they are exactly going to play with. It's now the time for the creator/producer of De-Former to come out in the open and counter Kaan's review strongly, unless the video review has been deliberately planned and planted by the creator/producer themselves. And if that be so, this is sure going to hurt them badly. . . . . till then, while holding back my 100 bucks, I'll be waiting and watching while enjoying the Café's hospitality.
MAGIC is a SECRET, without the SECRET there is no MAGIC.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke. |
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PendletonThe3rd Special user 973 Posts |
Well, don't hold back on buying it on account of this "exposure" video.
I would bet my house that your not getting acid, an invisible glove and a container to hold the acid. I know your a clever dude so I'm sure you see how silly that sounds (I mean that in the kindest and fondest way!). |
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lunatik Inner circle 3225 Posts |
That is absolutely HILARIOUS that people are even remotely entertaining the idea that an acid is being used to accomplish these results!! I’m sure he’s watching this thread and dying laughing that people actually think a bottle of acid is in play!!
This made my day! And it’s not even April 1st!! I can’t wait to see what he has planned next April Fools, it’s bound to be epic!
"Don't let your Dreams become Fantasies"
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Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts |
Ha ha ha . . . may be I got fooled badly . . . but NOW I will keep my 100 buck safe till I exactly know what's being offered (how practical is the gimmick etc.) - I'm in no hurry. Menny won't be getting my (and many of my friend's) money so soon . . . that's for sure! . . . and till then, I am very happy and contented with my QB2.
Good luck for the new release. Continue please . . .
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10798 Posts |
Many people saw this at Mindvention- and purchased. I did not have time to see the full demo.
Creator of The SvenPad Supreme(R) line of aerospace level quality, made in the USA utility props. https://svenpads.com/
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Alex DLF Inner circle 1997 Posts |
Wow, Kaan’s idea is terrible in my opinion. Even if it is a joke, it will affect sales in a very bad way and his false explanation will throw off many people... Plus the fact he does real reviews on his channel, I think his video is the worst idea he had..
No acid or liquid used in Deformer, it’s a mechanical and 100% safe solution.
Get yourself Stamper and MONU, the perfect walkaround packet tricks: https://youtu.be/rwtfeKFeLms & https://youtu.be/yz5yKlI-4w8
Make sure to check my English review Channel! http://www.youtube.com/c/alexisreviews |
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JackMagic Inner circle 1987 Posts |
Time will tell who is telling the truth
For $100 I will hold back like Ustaad as we have seen before If something sounds too good it probably is |
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catweazle Special user 924 Posts |
ACID?? Mawwaaa AAAAHHH HAHAHA
as if!!!, get real peeps! its a bender similar to all the others on the market, anyone that seriously believes acid is the method needs to take a good long hard look at themselves in the mirror. wake up! |
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reignofsound Inner circle Glasgow, UK 2200 Posts |
You can tell in the video description he is taking the p*ss.
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