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Interesting question, TeddyBoy. I've been working on magic for about two-and-a-half years and am a few notches beyond beginner level, not really intermediate yet. So I don't know how valuable my experience will be. But two things made me feel that maybe I can do this. The first was when finally, after many months of practice, I was pretty consistently able to do Lorayne's HaLo cut. The second was when I discovered that I'm pretty good at making up stories to go with tricks. (I changed Nick Trost's Sub-Trunk Mystery into a faux Arabian Nights story, with various cards playing the characters.)


It's funny -- I go into each new move or trick with utter optimism that I'll eventually learn it. I don't know where that comes from. At first probably because I didn't know any better! Didn't know how hard this sleight stuff really is. And more recently, success with easier sleights makes me think I can do harder sleights.
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Chicago Opener or French Kiss
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Bob, your experience sounds similar to me. This stuff is really hard!! The HaLo cut is also on my radar.

Kardistic, I just learned the moves in the Chicago Opener, and I really enjoy it. I can see how it would give someone confidence in moving ahead.
So many sleights...so little time.
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I have been practicing and performing for 18 months now. I could do several decent effects using a card force, a control and a double lift. However, the thing that made me think I could do this stuff was practicing a false Sybil cut. It took me about a month to get it to the point where I didn't drop cards everywhere. 3 months later I can do it quickly and smoothly. To begin with I believed my hands were not flexible enough, I was too old, small hands. However I followed Pandrea's advice to practice a slight that is beyond your skill level, the sybil cut, and this improved almost every other card slight because, I guess, my hands were stronger.

The chicago opener, I forgot I knew this effect. This is a good one as is the biddle trick. Both relatively easy to perform for a beginner, but play very well for an audience.
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Roberto Giobbi has a nice version of the Biddle Trick in one of Giobbi's Card College volumes. He calls it "The invisible card." Unlike most of the versions I've seen, it's well-motivated.



Personally I don't consider either Chicago Opener or the Biddle Trick to be beginner tricks (even relatively speaking Smile ) -- but maybe I'm just a slow learner! They're both beautiful.
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P. S. to TeddyBoy: But I know you're working on Chicago Opener. That's encouraging to me. Definitely on my list.


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The Chicago Opener is do-able, not that I can fool a professional with it. I specifically learned it from Michael Ammar's Easy to Master Miracles of Card Magic volume 1. He refers to this effect by its other name, RED HOT MAMA. He is currently selling his DVD for $9.95 on his own website. Definitely a bargain.
So many sleights...so little time.
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Ted
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I have that volume -- love his presentation. Thanks for the info, Teddy. One nice thing about his presentation of CO/RHM is that the DL-get-ready is pretty easy. I gotta build up my courage and master this trick! Right now I'm focusing on learning the Elmsley Count because I love packet tricks. I've pretty much got Color Monte down (a packet trick that* doesn't* use the EC). Do you know it? Seemingly inexplicable wonders with just three cards.
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P. S. Color Monte uses a small packet DL. There's a nice explanation of that DL on Liam Montier's Double Lift Project DVD.
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I vividly remember doing cups and balls on the way home from the magic store 40 years ago (I wasn't driving), just following along with the printed instructions (this was before video tutorials). At one point, I totally mystified myself, even though I obviously knew the moves I had done, and knew at that point that I was hooked! I chuckled for hours after that!
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Lovely story. Smile
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It can be good to begin with non-slight magic to get used to performing, and get your confidence up - and then try more difficult things.

The first nice reaction I got was doing Card Warp for a lady sitting next to me on a plane. She was 60-70 yrs old and giggled like a young girl.
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John Bannon's Move Zero series is a great place to gain confidence with presenting card magic whilst working on those pesky sleights. He himself doesn't have much pee performing character but the many presented tricks are easy to do, pack a punch (mostly) and let you build your own presenting style knowing you cant go wrong
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Bobo coin switch and lapping the first coin. The amount of time I got away with lapping made me feel like a real sleight artist haha
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Best product I ever bought that opened the door for many tricks I thought were beyond me was Science Friction. Amazing product that makes double lifts, elmsleigh counts etc an absolute breeze.
PS Chicago opener is a must and an early win for me was Macdonalds aces.
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On Oct 20, 2018, jimhlou wrote:
I disagree - ask any spectator about the ambitious card - boring!! Same old, same old over and over. Do the Chicago Opener, which literally blows people away, and move on to something else.


I personally think that the ambitious card routine paired with an Omni deck makes a very good trick that is NOT the same old overused trick. It surprises the spectator which is very important in magic.
- Just my humble opinion

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Two of the first routines to get my career going were Ambitious Card and Chicago Opener. I still count on them:



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I enjoyed that performance. Love the "no way!" from the audience as someone anticipates what's about to happen when Laura taps the deck. There's no doubt that when performed well, the ambitious card can melt minds.

I always feel like I've made progress whenever I add a new move to my ambitious card routine. From the first move I learnt as a kid (D****e L**t) to the more recent ones (various passes and shifts) I've learnt since picking up a deck again in the last year or so, each step feels great.

More recently I've stepped back a little from cards (I find it often helps to let knowledge ferment a little before returning to it), and shifted my focus on to coins, and I found myself in a similar situation again: apart from a couple of basic moves I leant as a kid (F****h D**p, !@#$*r p**m), I had no moves. Fast forward a couple of weeks and I've picked up some new moves from an excellent spellbound routine I've been studying and practicing (Eaton's Spellbound). And again, each step forward feels great.
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When I was 18, I had learned to do the Downs Palm, the Five Coin Star, and a very good Four Coin Roll, which I taught to Johnny Ace Palmer. That was enough to give me the confidence to dump the milk pitcher, the square circle, and "the red velvet bag on a stick", which I had done as a young teen. Oh! I also could get an 18" spread with the spring shuffle. I quit doing white glove split fans, etc.

I even quit the multiplying balls, and now my ball routine is a few basic flourishes, Percy's Perpetual Balls, Bill Williston's visible ball thru silk, and Karrell Fox's four ball climax, (cuz it plays better than the mu;ltplying balls!)

I've been doing the Eskimo YOYO since '51. I taught it to Dennis Loomis, Gene Anderson, C. Thomas Magrum, and Bob Lewis.

Many old timers told me, "Ya can't do sleight of hand material for kids. They don't appreciate it." Well, most of my 45 minute show is sleight of hand material, and, I was never "at liberty" in 50 years!

I never could do the "21 card trick".
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On Jul 11, 2019, Dick Oslund wrote:

I never could do the "21 card trick".


You could have done it if those cards didn’t keep jumping to your pocket!

To others, if you have never witnessed Dick Oslund do his cards to pocket, you have missed an enjoyable experience! I learned it at one of his lectures I had the chance to attend... this is one card trick that plays for all ages and it’s not another ‘pick a card’ card trick.
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