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Harry Murphy
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Honestly this sounds like a slight variation of the inexpensive accessory that Chazpro put out ten or 15 years ago (and still sells today). It is called the “bat”. It was a simple hold out device that you hooked on your belt. Two, one on each side would do the things that this is reported to do

The Bat is only $30.00 and at that price of the Trabucco you could buy 4 and put them at four different locations on your person. Then you can make some magic (using the special objects necessary)!


I wonder how different these two are?
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Mike Powers
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The Trabucco hold out is MUCH better than what you describe with the Bat. It is far easier to use and more versitile.

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Hold-out shmold-out... I saw Bob Fitch do the coin bit (circa 1980's) and it was real magic!
I have yet to see a Kohler product poorly made. Pony up if you plan on doing magic the rest of your life and if you want to do real magic like Broadway Bob.
I'll get a Trabbuco, as well as an F/K... after all I don't own just one hammer.

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On 2004-07-11 07:37, paulsmagic wrote:
TO: MAGIC CHRIS
I suggest you get a book about marketing. when you go to a car show, the manufacturer shows you a futuristic car that is not available YET. it wets your appetite.
the same is what you describe about the minor point about a coin not being available. you start by saying you don't have either holdouts you discuss because of the price, then in the same breath say that you want another coin for the effect. personally it doesn't sound like you bought either one or sold anything. you are just whining. this is a site to help magicians not a doctor's couch. if you have an issue with Paul Richards take it up with him personally. you are doing this site a disservice with your diatribe. stop already.


What does a futuristic car have to do with this? If I bought the car and found out it runs, but the tires aren't available yet, then it's INCOMPLETE!

Diatribe? ohhh Funk and Wagnall's 30 days to a better vocabulary, eh? Do you have the Holdout? Doubtful.
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I love the Trabucco Holdout. It has many possiblities. I am having a blast trying out different combinations of methods. I have been working on some different routines including the Trabucco Holdout, topit and sleeving (not all in the same routine). Imagine the possible combinations!
One last thought. Bob Kohler has a great effect called the Black Envelope. That with a little work and the holdout....this will leave those 'in the know' without an explanation. Thanks to Bob, Paul and Vic.
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On 2004-07-11 10:58, Harry Murphy wrote:
Honestly this sounds like a slight variation of the inexpensive accessory that Chazpro put out ten or 15 years ago (and still sells today). It is called the “bat”. It was a simple hold out device that you hooked on your belt. Two, one on each side would do the things that this is reported to do

The Bat is only $30.00 and at that price of the Trabucco you could buy 4 and put them at four different locations on your person. Then you can make some magic (using the special objects necessary)!


I wonder how different these two are?



Harry, after I sold my holdout I used my 2 bats just as you say.
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I bought the TH and am very pleased with it. it's the little touches that let you know it's been thought through. I also own other holdouts and it is neither better nor worse.... just different.

It's funny to see U3F being mentioned on here. I have worked out a version 3F using the TH. It doesn't use the "usual gimmick", the coins can be examined and it all be done with sleeves rolled up. You start and finish clean.
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Having attended the Magic Live seminar in Las Vegas I was able to watch Bob Fitch demonstrate their holdout and watch Paul Richards use the Trabucco holdout. Both are very well made and excellent for what they are...utility devices. You cannot compare the two systems. Overall, I am happy with my purchase of the Trabucco holdout. It perfectly fills my needs in two routines that I perform on a regular basis. I was able to set it up quickly (unlike the 3 week wait from the tailor for my top-it) it will help a performer "clean up" many rough spots using very natural gestures and movement. I recommend it to anyone who does walk around or table hopping. I do however have some minor complaints. Elmwood charges $125 for this system. The DVD was shot by Paul Richards, there are a number of times when Mr. Trabucco "flashes". Reshooting and/or editing is in order. Also take a page from Michael Ammar's formula, start off showing some effects, then take the viewer step by step through the process, installing, using it, tips on misdirection, then show the explainations. My biggest pet peave was shared by someone else, an English penny, and a chinese coin should have been included at this price.
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On 2004-05-18 16:44, mike gallo wrote:
Mike, the coins the Roth book mentions are available.

Yes, they are...but the planet, the rainbow, the salt shakers, the rubber stamp, the portable hole ect. etc. etc.....are not! And thanks for the kind words about the coins through table, I have lots of fun with that one.

Mike


What do you mean "they aren't available." You can make the portable hole out of felt. You can cut the rainbow out of cardboard, you can have the rubber stamp made. If all of these props were included with the book, the price would go through the roof.
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What do you mean "they aren't available." You can make the portable hole out of felt. You can cut the rainbow out of cardboard, you can have the rubber stamp made. If all of these props were included with the book, the price would go through the roof.

Bill, I was trying to make a point...there is a complaint about 1 coin not being available with the Trabucco Hold-out...why is it any different than say the Roth book which has many props unavailable with the book. Yes, I know you can get felt and make the portable hole...yes, I know you can get a couple little globe pencil sharpeners to make the planet...yes, I know you can get some colored plastic, some glue, some spray paint, and get a lot of dimes gold plated to make the rainbow....yes,I know you can get a lot of things to make up the effects in Davids book. I also know that you will have to do a lot of running around to get all this...I also know that if you make up every prop in this book...it will cost more than the book itself...hell, it will cost more for gas in your car alone Smile...so my point is...why complain about one little coin that will cost less than the hold-out itself...when you buy dozens of books and spend a lot more to make up the props! Afterall, this is a prop you are buying...not a magic kit!

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Look, they sold this holdout and put an effect on the DVD that could not be done with what you were given. And, it's explained that it takes a special way to make the coin, so you need them to supply it. And...it was not avaialble ( yet ).

Why put out a car with only 3 working doors? maybe wait until it's actually ready and then market it????
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Look, they sold this holdout and put an effect on the DVD that could not be done with what you were given. And, it's explained that it takes a special way to make the coin, so you need them to supply it. And...it was not avaialble ( yet ).

That applies to most any purchase you make in magic...you are buying secrets...it's up to you to get the tools!

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Mike, we'll have to agree to disagree, then.

I feel they released this too early. I was ok with the coin not being in the kit, but not ok with it not being available.

I sold it and glad I did.

Besides, the advertising says coins appear and vanish at your fingertips. This is not so.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been"

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Just being ornery here, but it can appear and vanish at your fingertips - as long as your fingertips are down at your side concealed from view Smile So the advertisement is not wrong.
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Dan, good point. That's why my new holdout has the same advertising claims, but you do have to travel to a different town for the routine to look good.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been"

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Why does this remind me of the predator wallet? Is it black on the web site instead of brown?
Did this start out in praise of elmwood only to end in an unhappy customer?
Will Paul also stop posting as did Mr.Wilson?

Can't someone help me, There seems to be a repeating theme? But what is the common thread?
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Well, if things are advertised one way, and show up another.....

I doubt anyone is listening to just me on any subject. There must be mutiple buyers voicing complaints/opinions. No?
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been"

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I agree with you, MagicChris. I really felt misled by the advertising. The ability to vanish things at the fingertips and with a puff of smoke was very misrepresented, IMHO. Had they not made such statements, I would have felt a lot better about my purchase.

That's not to say this holdout is a bad product... but truth in advertising would have led me to trust the company on furture purchases. Now, I'll be very cautious before buying any "exclusive" products from them.

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I just recieved my TH today
I think it is excellent for doing street magic
but I am a bit worry about the dirty moment will be noticed....it is a bit suspicious to me when I first see the video before opening the product...
I just know that is something happened at "that" moment......(many people said it is so nature..but I am not quite agree)
I think I need to practice more on misdirection(also sleight of hand)

I am very satisfy with the accessories...so many~~~~
but I found the "3 O" seems a bit difficult to unload...it's too tight........anyone else with this problem?what to do with it?

finally.....the estimate shipping fee is 7.99 but turn out to be $25 -_-!
(they use the extremely urgent)
(i am not unhappy with that.i am happy to get it so fast... just to let you guys know and pay attention if you want cheaper mailing service
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I think the use of the TH is much more effective in a surrounded condition. I used it a our last club meeting and no one had any clue as to the method. Audience managemnt is the key to using the TH, much like a topit. I am working on a routine using the TH, topit and sleeving. It is a five phase routine. Jackleu, I hope you enjoy the TH.
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