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Poof-Daddy Inner circle Considering Stopping At Exactly 5313 Posts |
Https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic/......d-coins/
Has anyone seen this up close? Maybe at a convention or something? Man, it looks clean and very magical, I am wondering if the Morgans are real or not though?
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Xcath1 Inner circle 3067 Posts |
I don’t know this for a fact but I’m pretty sure th coins aren’t real. This didn’t look that great to me but I am looking as a magician
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magicday Regular user 195 Posts |
No, those are fake Morgans . The quality is not good. The Copper coin is terrible.
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Emory Kimbrough New user Tuscaloosa, AL 94 Posts |
That does indeed look very good. But is it $100 better than David Roth's no-gimmick Wild coin? Roth's routine can be performed with a Chinese coin - preferably one of the understated and far more realistic all-brass ones, not one with enamel painted over the brass unlike any real coin. I've had numerous spectators spontaneously comment that they were *particularly* amazed that the coins changed from not having holes to having holes. I can take a hint from my audience, so as excellent as Mr. Cheung's version is, I'm not giving up the strength of using a coin with a hole.
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3624 Posts |
It says "Easy to learn, no complicated sleights needed". I wonder how true that is?
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Xcath1 Inner circle 3067 Posts |
It is not that true. I feel the method is clear. I do not own the trick. The slights I see are not super hard but not trivial
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3624 Posts |
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On Nov 15, 2018, Xcath1 wrote: Exactly what I thought too. There may be easier ways to use the gimmicks though that are not in the trailer. |
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Poof-Daddy Inner circle Considering Stopping At Exactly 5313 Posts |
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On Nov 15, 2018, rowdymagi5 wrote: True, but that is not to say the easier sleights are not on the full video. He could have just used “this version” for the trailer.
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jerdunn Inner circle 1735 Posts |
This routine is similar to, but not as visual and clean as, Luis Piedrahita's Wild Coin, which is taught in his book. (You can see a performance on YouTube.)
That routine requires only three half dollars and a gaff most coin guys already own. I don't see the value in the Beans Magic version. |
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Poof-Daddy Inner circle Considering Stopping At Exactly 5313 Posts |
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On Nov 15, 2018, jerdunn wrote: I see the value if the 3 silver coins have to be shaved down and re-milled to fit the outer part of the Copper Gaff (like a "Samoya" or "TWIAD" set). Although not knowing the origin or name of the copper coin (if it is even real), I don't know its size. It may be a hair bigger than a Morgan Making it in the grasp of a lot more magicians who have the "common version" of the gaff.
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Frittentick New user 98 Posts |
Look for Curtis Cam "The Goblet". That's magic.
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MrCyNic Loyal user England 238 Posts |
I got this as a birthday present last month. Can confirm that the Morgans are genuine and unmodified. The gaff is actually very nice. Not Lassen nice, but more than adequate. You've probably already got one, but for reference the one supplied works with normal-sized Morgans. I'm not massively fond of the routine as described, mostly due to the handling of the gaff in a couple of places, but have put one together that suits me better. The sleights involved are trivial at best. Nothing fiddly.
Long story short, there's nothing about this set that makes it essential if you already do a Wild Coin routine. It is, however, a very pretty trick with very pretty coins. |
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aceofspades71 New user 73 Posts |
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On Nov 15, 2018, Poof-Daddy wrote: The copper coin is not an original coin, as a matter of fact this coin is pure fantasy. I have several of them minted in UK but this one looks a bit different most likely Chinese fake of the fantasy coin. Morgans from this set are NOT real silver/genuine coins - Chinese copies. Hope this helps. |
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Stephon Johnson Special user Razorback Country 544 Posts |
For those who have speculated about the Copper Coin in this set. I was trying to find suitable extra Copper coins (I've asked Bean's via email and no response) So I discovered that the coin is NOT a fantasy coin; It is actually a Replica of the 1900 Gold Sovereign. There were some bronze versions of the coin, but has a seated figure rather than the horse/rider in the gold version coin. Here is a link of the Gold coin...
https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/gold-sov......-head-p/ BTW: Comparing the Replica Morgans between this set and the Vegas Dream Set (Both Bean's Magic) Wild Coins uses Replicas of same size - maybe possibly 1/64" thicker than thickness of genuine Morgans. These Replicas weigh 23g vs 26g genuine. Genuine Morgans and Ikes fit in the Copper gaff with 100% edge coverage. Vegas Dream Coins uses Replicas that are slightly larger diameter (approx. 1-9/16" = +1/16") and Thicker (approx. 5/32" = +1/32"). These weigh 28g vs 26g genuine. These visual comparison of the Replica Morgans to use the "extra coin" cleanup of the Wild Coin set finale (those who have it, you know what I'm saying). Just don't get it mixed up with the other Vegas Morgans because it will NOT fit into the Copper Shell, due to the larger diameter. Blessings, Steph
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Stephon Johnson Special user Razorback Country 544 Posts |
...Also...
I Facebook messaged Bill Cheung asking can I buy extra matching Copper coin. He said he doesn’t have any right now, but he will have them in April. I will follow up with him then! Steph
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MrCyNic Loyal user England 238 Posts |
Heh - guess I got fooled by the replicas. Probably not the first time, either. Still a nice set, though. Been having fun with it.
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Stephon Johnson Special user Razorback Country 544 Posts |
No, even though this is $100, you couldn’t have genuine Morgans for that price!
But, I knew they were Replicas and I bought it used cheaper. I still like ‘em too! Later Steph
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lyoma New user 73 Posts |
I have just got this set. The quality of the regular Morgan replicas is wonderful. But I have two problems: 1) The copper s***l makes noise when used in close up; 2) the same gimmick has plain edge, so the handling is difficult, compared to ordinary silver one with reeded edge. When you watch the promotion video, you don't notice the noise problem, because the sound is eliminated. Do you have any idea to avoid the trouble?
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magikmax Regular user Scotland 113 Posts |
It does mention in the reviews that the coins talking are an issue. I can’t see it being an issue if you’re doing this round tables etc. In a noisy function room or restaurant, however it also mentions the performance as shown in the demo has restricted angles, so maybe not suitable for this sort of environment. Would need answers before putting down that sort of money on it. I really like the idea of the routine though - wild coins has passed me by somehow, so this is something new for me to investigate further!
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lyoma New user 73 Posts |
Thank you for your answer, Magikmax. As for the angle issue, you cannot be seen from behind, but except that, the angle is rather good; of course, you cannot perform this in table hopping.
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