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aligator Inner circle Canada 2044 Posts |
In Maximum Entertainment, Ken Weber suggests that the mentalist should be the only one on stage (or up front in parlour) at the conclusion of the performance. I am not sure that I agree with this as it greatly restricts the range of possible closings. If you have an audience participation show, is there anything wrong with having an audience assistant up front with the performer at the end? Sure, one may be sharing some of the acclaim, but perhaps that is the intention of the performance in the first place.
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Shadow Art New user 56 Posts |
Personally I will find it not theatrical accurate. It's logical if performance begins and ends with performer, even for audience.
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Shrubsole Inner circle Kent, England 2455 Posts |
I don't think finishing on your own means that your last routine is a solo one.
You could have a massive audience participation as a finisher and then dismiss them back to the audience. You then take centre stage to sum up, say a couple of lines, thank them and goodnight! Exist to applause>>>>>>>>
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10586 Posts |
In one of my shows I end with 40-60 people on stage with me. I have ended with them onstage and have also dismissed them so I end with only me on stage. The closing is the same either way, can be really just a matter of preference if the closing segment is not affected by it. It is more of a staging preference.
My preference is now to dismiss them but to continue their performance into the audience so it is more than just a dismissal but a continuation of the show into the audience, to end with me on stage for the final impact close. |
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aligator Inner circle Canada 2044 Posts |
That seems well thought out Mindpro. It seems too that how one closes depends very much on what kind of show has been presented.
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WitchDocChris Inner circle York, PA 2614 Posts |
I like to end with just myself on stage. I feel it gives a more definite 'wrap up' to the show, and I like how it mirrors the beginning of the show as well.
Christopher
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Last Laugh Inner circle Grass Valley, California 3498 Posts |
I've been closing lately with a 10 card divination where I have 10 people in the audience standing, and they sit down when I name their card. That way it both involves a lot of people but also ends with just me on stage holding the kicker prediction.
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lucavolpe Inner circle Italy - London 3349 Posts |
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On Nov 20, 2018, Last Laugh wrote: Do the opposite, like this you get a standing ovation
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David Thiel Inner circle Western Canada...where all that oil is 4005 Posts |
I choose the bulk of my volunteers at the very beginning of the show...so there are 8 chairs filled with people on stage with me the entire time.
When I finish, I ask for applause for my panel of volunteers and then I thank the audience for sharing this portion of their evening with me. Then I bow. Maximum Entertainment is a brilliant book -- and I wouldn't presume to contradict Ken. But since the whole emphasis of my show is taking my audience on a 'journey' -- to me it makes perfect sense to finish with a representation of the audience with me on stage. A byproduct of this? The audience sees the panel applauding...and so they applaud. Often one or two of the panel -- the volunteers I have used in the show -- will stand and applaud. This leads to the room giving me a standing ovation. This is always a very good thing for the client to see. David
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aligator Inner circle Canada 2044 Posts |
That's good David. And I do agree. that despite the fact Maximum Entertainment is an excellent book, it is not necessary to remain alone at the end, especially if you have an audience participation show. That is why I posed the question in the first place...to get some different thoughts concerning the resolution to this question. As with most things....to each his own.
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Chris K Inner circle 2544 Posts |
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On Nov 18, 2018, Shrubsole wrote: Exactly. Example: The final envelope test (a version of the "MP Envelope Test") in Marc Paul's Penguin Live lecture (again, not his Penguin Live Act lecture), it's a massive effect. People on stage, off stage, etc. He's able to finish (as well as cue the audience to give him a standing ovation) all by himself though. This is a perfect example of a final effect, where people are on stage during the effect, but ending with the performer, alone, on stage. -Lem |
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Last Laugh Inner circle Grass Valley, California 3498 Posts |
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On Nov 21, 2018, lucavolpe wrote: Hey - great idea!
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Senor Fabuloso Inner circle 1243 Posts |
The idea of being the last man standing, is to give the impression to the audience that YOU are the show. The subliminal message is without YOU there is no show. Having your stage full of other people makes it look like THEY are the show. If that's what you want? Then by all means disrespect Mr. Weber's advice. Other wise, it's a good idea to take it
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aligator Inner circle Canada 2044 Posts |
Once again, that is the wrong message Senor. Weber also says that it is most important for the audience to connect to the performer and to actually like him and root for him. I can't see this happening in the kind of performace that you wish to present.
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Senor Fabuloso Inner circle 1243 Posts |
Aligator, you have no idea what kind of show I want to present. So don't make assumptions.
No matter how many times you say the wrong thing, it will NEVER be right.
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Shadow Art New user 56 Posts |
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On Nov 21, 2018, Last Laugh wrote: It's an amazing idea. I will try it definitively! |
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aligator Inner circle Canada 2044 Posts |
What kind of show do you want to present Senor? I do not wish to make assumptions although the number of effects you have in mind does cause one to think it might be more magically oriented in nature. I would love to be wrong and to discover that you have come up with an amazing new and successful formula.
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Philemon Vanderbeck Inner circle Seattle, WA 4694 Posts |
If you have to "trick" your audience into giving you a standing ovation, then is it really a standing ovation?
Professor Philemon Vanderbeck
That Creepy Magician "I use my sixth sense to create the illusion of possessing the other five." |
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aligator Inner circle Canada 2044 Posts |
Good point. No, it's not.
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aligator Inner circle Canada 2044 Posts |
After reading all of the differing opinions and considering the kind of show I am trying to present, I think it best (for me at least) to close with an audience participation demonstration but to return them to their seats for some brief closing remarks.
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