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GetMental64 New user 90 Posts |
It is certainly NOT a mentalism effect, it is a magic effect, but it is up to every performer to see how and where and in which context he performs this. There have been plenty of magic effects that have an element of danger in them throughout all the centuries that magic has been performed. If you like it (like me, but only in the right context) good, if not also OK, then do not buy it, but I do not think we need to get into a guns etc. do not belong into a magic show, it is a "show" afterall and if this fits your style, there is no question that many audiences (not all) will find this effect something that entertains them, that they cannot explain and which they will talk about for a long time after the show. Can`t wait to get mine soon...
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GetMental64 New user 90 Posts |
There is a second video of this effect, I saw it on the Penguin magic website, where the effect is performed live. There is no smoke coming from the mouth at all, but this is nothing that I would have wanted to happen in the first place anyhow.
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funboy247 New user 64 Posts |
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On Dec 8, 2018, GetMental64 wrote: But smoke would make sense for this trick. I hate fake videos |
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DavidKenney Inner circle 2178 Posts |
I got an advanced copy for review, but have been hesitant to write anything up about it since it doesn't come with the "fuego algodón." I was going to order some online but shipping is $16 !!!!
The two times the trick is performed in the 20 minute instruction - smoke never comes out of his mouth. In fact he doesn't even talk about "catching the fire" other than just saying "after you catch the fire in your mouth..." |
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emyers99 Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 4741 Posts |
Wow. Talk about shady advertising
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Blindside785 Inner circle Olympia, WA 4541 Posts |
It’s 100% added in for theatrical effect as stated by Murphy’s on Facebook. Well nobody would no that unlesss they checked there, they should stop doing that. Big let down if people see the trailer and think they are getting that visual that is on the video helping it get sold.
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Mad Jake Inner circle All the voices in my head helped me make 2200 Posts |
I just watched the "Promo" videos and have to agree with others. The piece looks nice, nice concept, but presentation leaves a lot to be questioned. What allows me to draw my opinion is
my brother Frederick and I have been working on recreating Chung Ling Soo's last performance right now to the stage setting for the past 6 years with the Bullet Catch being the final performance. While some would not catch the indiscrepanies in the performance, a lot will that are both historical and familiar with magic. The video is greatly over aggregated. I like the effect he created but like others have pointed out, it's exaggerated . As far as 16.00 shipping mentioned by DavidKenny, that is a fair price, rates have gone up again with shipping carriers and the post office and the case and parts are heavy, so 16.00 is a steal. Just my 2 cents, Jake Jr.
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DrRob Special user Middle Chinnock 952 Posts |
Im still waiting to hear if its Illegal to use in the UK as I said above !?
Regards Dr Rob |
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GetMental64 New user 90 Posts |
To me it was clear as water that the first video is not a live performance and not what I would get, again, nothing I would want either, and why would smoke or fire come out of my mouth after catching a bullet (more logical would be blood and fragments of your teeth...)??? I live in Switzerand, where we (still) have access to fire arms and where males (like me) serve in the Swiss army, so I would never expect something that, were it real, would like unreal. Would it be possible and real, it would look like on the second video, so not a problem at all for me. Hope to give you my review soon.
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santlerconjurer Veteran user 364 Posts |
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On Dec 8, 2018, DavidKenney wrote: 1. Can the effect be performed (in one way or another) using only what is shipped to you by the retailer? 2. Can the effect be performed (in an alternate way) using additional materials ordered elsewhere? If "yes," does this alternate way include some sort of fire material really shooting into one's mouth? If "yes," one can only ask what?, fire shooting into the mouth?, haven't you ever heard of liability, torts, lawsuits, damages, all that nasty stuff? In short, I simply don't believe anyone is selling something that is represented even loosely by the video promotional material. I'd be happy to be proved wrong however. POSTSCRIPT: By the way, how many rehearsals plus performances will be enabled by materials included with one's initial purchase? Are refills available? At what cost? |
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strollingmagician Loyal user 285 Posts |
It would be great if the creator could answer all the questions asked here. Thanks!
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DavidKenney Inner circle 2178 Posts |
The effect can not be performed in any capacity with what is provided. In looking at various retailers who sell this, I have seen 2 shops indicate what is NOT included. But I have also seen 3 shops NOT list it.
NOT INCLUDED: cotton wadding, fuse (and the lighter, obviously) This is more than likely because of the rules regarding ground and air shipping where you live. In the USA - all incendiary devices have to ship ground. I have reached out to Mikhail online and I believe there is a language barrier. I tired asking him what actually "projects" from the canon. Supposedly it "depends" on how much you load. I asked what happens if your aim is off and you "miss" catching the flame in your mouth? He said, "nothing. The main thing for sure to understand how much cotton you need. Testing: do lips damp saliva before shot. And wider open mouth to catch the flame. Do not use too many cotton, understand how much you need. Can get further from the barrel if worried. If you catch the flame from the mouth is the smoke. Look trailer in my page. it's like a double effect. " That'd be how I'd play it. Either: 1. Use a small amount of wadding so that only the "effect" emits from the mouth of the canon (or) 2. Stand further away |
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DrRob Special user Middle Chinnock 952 Posts |
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On Dec 10, 2018, DavidKenney wrote: I would then say this item would be illegal to sell in the UK as it would be classed as a "Firearm" as it has the capability of actually firing a projectile and this may also be an issue with other countries too. Something Murphys needs to address ASAP. Regards Dr Rob |
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GetMental64 New user 90 Posts |
David, you have wonderful reviews on your youtube channel, a good chance to say "Thank you!". Are you going to review bullet catch V too?
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DavidKenney Inner circle 2178 Posts |
I wrote to Penguin, Murphy's and Hocus_pocus this morning and asked them to add a line as to what is NOT included and all 3 have done so.
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GetMental64 New user 90 Posts |
I just saw your great review David, mine has arrived in Switzerland, but not at my house yet. But based on what I can see in your review and based on my expectations on what I would get, I can see that I am going to get exactly what I wanted. I agree 100% with your review.
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DavidKenney Inner circle 2178 Posts |
OH YEA! Here's my review for anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4nP7toALZ0
I recut the trailer at the beginning - to include the uncut performance from the explanation video instead |
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Crossroads Mystic Elite user Rapid City, SD 498 Posts |
Thank you David, great video!
~G |
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GetMental64 New user 90 Posts |
So, I got mine today and I can 100% agree with everything that David has said in his youtube review. It is exactly as I expected it to be. Of course it does not come with a lighter (supply your own, fitting your own performance style) or fuses (this maybe the most difficult part not supplied to find, but where I live there are many options, also check model shops which supply fuses for model rockets etc.) or flash cotton (but any magician should have this or your local magic shop can help you). The quality is excellent and the two things that help you do what needs to be done are exactly as expected and work flawlessly. I recommend this product 100% (if this fits your style and if it is legal to purchase in your country). Remember, you are still playing with fire, do not get hurt and do not hurt others, practice and keep this away from kids!
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GetMental64 New user 90 Posts |
Forgot one thing which was pointed out by another magician above: the wing nuts need to be replaced, they look and feel cheap.
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