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Ever Elizalde New user 50 Posts |
Http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/11203
Really looking forward to this. Already pre-ordered it. "What will he teach? Max Maven teaches VOYANCE A Complete Act of Stand-Up Mentalism A CHOICE INTRODUCTION- What is the true purpose of an opening routine? How does it address important issues in setting up optimal conditions for the rest of the act? This routine does just that, while also secretly establishing the theme for the show. It also makes use of a valuable force—a practical new take on a forgotten technique that can be applied to a host of effects. RE:VISION- This multi-phase routine involves a simple pack of design cards (that isn’t as simple as it seems). Honed over the course of forty years, this is Max’s latest version of a routine that epitomizes the idea of “packs small, plays big.” CINEMENTALISM- When is a book test more than a book test? When it engages a participant’s complete involvement. A person thinks of a movie. The mentalist ultimately reveals the film—but in so doing, is able to accurately describe details about a scene from that movie that the person has merely visualized. This is strong material, made all the more valuable by Max s discussions of structure and stagecraft, plus spectator management, historical notes, and much more". Even though he will only perform three effects (apparently) and even though the description of "Cinementalism" sounds exactly the same as the book test he performed on his first penguin lecture, I'm sure we are in for a treat here! |
miltos New user 58 Posts |
I am looking forward to see this!
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Matt Pulsar Inner circle 1130 Posts |
Anyone know what “a choice introduction” is? I’m curious if it’s his rubber band prediction.
Belief Manifests Reality.
Nebula CT: https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/8517 |
Sudo Nimh Inner circle 1879 Posts |
For some reason, I'm feeling there's a die or dice involved...
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baobow Special user 510 Posts |
How was CINEMENTALISM? Interested in buying this just for that
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Nestor D Special user France (Paris) 830 Posts |
As expected all effects are solid, together they make a nice and efficient show. To answer questions :
Choice introduction is a prediction that does use dices (I believe it is not his rubber band prediction). Cinementalism is a solid book test using a classic method (note that the mentalist hold the book during the page selection). No question was asked on the subject but Re:Vision uses a deck you can build with your buissness cards and has a very nice climax. The one shortcoming is that the lecture is quitte short compared to penguin's standards (1h40). |
Johnny250 Regular user 136 Posts |
Short lecture. Not the best stuff at the level of max. But you can still get some ideas. There is feeling that the live acts format is less impressive.
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ValeCavaliero New user 58 Posts |
Just ordered. Can't wait to see it! I'll publish a review as soon as possible
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siepielski Regular user 194 Posts |
The real gold is in the thinking and structure of the routines that Max elaborates on during the explanation of the shows development. Much to learn there rather than just new routines.
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Mark Timon Special user 594 Posts |
If it wasnt for Max Maven, I'd say that this is a very weak and short lecture with only 3 routines that use very well known methods, nothing spectacular or new. But because I like listening to experienced and knowledge performers, this lecture is nice.
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ValeCavaliero New user 58 Posts |
Interesting lecture, full of interesting subtitles rather than killer effects
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j100taylor Inner circle 1198 Posts |
Meh...
Lakewood, Ohio
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Oscar999 Elite user 401 Posts |
I just like to listen to Max talk. I have the Kayfabe set, and can't tell you how many times I'm just watched the interviews.
For me, the highlight was the performance and explanation of Re:Vision. You get a lot of mystery out of that set and it looks really easy to make up with business cards. A great stand-up piece. I also liked the Choice Introduction piece, but I wasn't thrilled with the method - but then, I haven't tried it either. Frankly I thought Cinementalism was an attempt at redemption from the failed book test on his first Penguin lecture. And again, it was underwhelming, if ultimately successful. I just don't think audiences are sophisticated enough to appreciate a "book test" any more. Plus, I don't think people buy into the premise, at least not in the premise that the mentalist is picking up on images from the movie in your mind. I didn't see it in the face of the participant. Oscar |
federico luduena Loyal user Spain 248 Posts |
Having finished viewing the act and explanations, I wanted to share just two things (there are more) I found really useful. One is the general idea that when learning Max's material it is wise to check the references he provides. Doing that, I discovered that even what he discards is valuable. In Re:vision, Max improved an old effect of his by making it self-contained. Now, he got rid of a deck switch, which is great in the context of that routine. But the deck switch itself (found in the original version) is worth knowing and using.
In Cinementalism, there is a precise placement of an apparent inconvenience during the process of selection. That makes the effect more powerful in the end, and the technique is method-independent. It really makes you smile when you see how engineering the process just a little amplifies the impact on the spectators by much. |
Thomas Walter Special user Well, it is strange that at my age, I certanly should have more than 527 Posts |
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On Feb 2, 2019, federico luduena wrote: Agree! A minute after I watched this effect, I found and ordered the book on Ebay! Great thinking from Max, as usual! |
Oscar999 Elite user 401 Posts |
A "problem" I see with Cinementalism goes to the premise and then execution. You're going to think of a scene from a movie and I'm going to get it. (okay that works) Now, to make this a random choice, here's a big book of movie reviews. So, let me flip through it and call stop ...
I don't believe a thoughtful audience would buy that as a completely free choice. There are justifications, sure, the person could be in the middle of the audience, "for convenience or expedience sake, just stand where you are, and call stop." That's okay, but does anybody really buy that you don't know what place in the book you're stopping on? And - Just because you may be "familiar" with one of the titles doesn't mean you're emotionally connected to it. A better premise, at least in my mind, is to simply ask someone to think of their favorite movie, then to replay a scene in their head - you pick up on "that." If you must make this a book test, fine, "Find your favorite film in this collection of reviews from the last hundred years." Now, all you have to do is work out a way to determine which movie review in the book they are looking through. I really like Max. I like his material. I like the way he thinks ... I'm just not keen on this book test. Oscar |
Consultthemind1 Regular user 185 Posts |
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On Feb 4, 2019, Oscar999 wrote: I think if the performer did a Matrix or audience poll earlier in the show asking the question (amongst other questions) who here hasn’t seen many movies or films? Then watch for people wno put their hands up (remember one of them) and say afterwards “these are the people in the audience who are influenced via sound instead of sight” - or something to that degree asked a few more questions then began the show and after a few effects came to this effect, looked around the audience pointing to the person you saw earlier raise their hand and said “Earlier I asked a series of questions and one of those questions was about movies, would you say you have watched a lot of movies?” They will of course say no and you can say “I would usually just someone to think of a film and dive inside their head but I feel it’s a bit unfair because If I asked you to think of a film it would then only be from a tiny number if any at all. I don’t usually do this, this way but in the spirit of being prepared for any given situation I do carry this for people who aren’t well versed in film so they can select a film at complete random, if said person doesn’t know a high number of films. I fear this might not work anyway as I mentioned people who are influenced by sound are hard to read when thinking visually”. Then gave the book out you look like the good guy for saving the person who couldn’t think up a film. Hope it reads how it sounds inside my head. David |
loserdlj New user 64 Posts |
I think very good
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Sudo Nimh Inner circle 1879 Posts |
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On Feb 21, 2019, loserdlj wrote: You too? I couldn't resist. |
Aaron Vlack Regular user 102 Posts |
The most valuable aspect is the live show. Max is a true mystery performer.
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