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Hey Gaijin, Erik Tait here.

So what you're getting with this is two chips that add kickers in different ways to the effect. There is a Fine Print version, and then the Ultra Lucky Coin that has a false revelation that transforms into the selected card. This is an additional kicker, and having performed both for years I can tell you a get stronger reactions with the Ultra Lucky Coin gimmick. The video of the women freaking out in the trailer is a pretty common occurrence. People frequently grab the chip and start rubbing it to figure out what happened. There is zero heat on you because the change happens at a completely different time. I reset in front of the audience as I put the chip away and move on to my next table. I also go deep in depth on the individual moves and optional moves to make this really destroy when you are working.

These are super high quality props. The original prototypes were constructed with chips from an actual casino here in Columbus OH, but a lot of problems arose from the way clay and traditional labels cling to dirt and finger oils. After a few weeks the chips looked like garbage. So I went out and sourced polymer chips with the same weight and feel as clay but with significantly higher durability. The labels on the clips are made with a polycarbonate coating. I actually have a background in plastics, and so I investigated the manufacturer to make sure that it would function the way I wanted it to and not look dirty after being put through a couple hundred gigs. I've had the production models for 6 months and field tested them extensively to make sure they hold up to the rigors of professional performance. Don't take my word for it, I got that quote from Rob Ramirez after I gave him one when I was performing at The Magic Castle. He called me up a few days later swearing at me for how wonderful the reactions were. If I never sell another chip, Rob screaming at me on the phone for the huge reactions is reward enough.

I'm super happy with how it's selling, because obviously that's the reason to sell a trick. But I'm also pretty concerned about my reputation. Suit Cut To Order has a nearly perfect review rating on Penguin, my lecture has 5 stars, and I wouldn't have put this out if I didn't think I could maintain that same level of quality. Is this for everyone? No. But it's consistently the most asked about thing at my lectures (apart from my work on The Snap Deal), and it's the first thing I've added to my walk around act that has had people stop asking, "Do the marker thing" in reference to Double Cross, and started having people say instead, "Dude, you have to see him do the chip thing."

I hope I've been able to be of some help to you. I really hope people enjoy this. I've been playing with and researching the Lucky Coin plot ever since I learned it from Jon Armstrong. If you ever see me at a convention and want to see me do it in person feel free to ask. It's one of my favorite pieces to perform and I am always happy to help other people who purchase my products and notes get better at the magic they do.
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John, the chips we used as the base are ferrous. So if you wanted to vanish it or holdout with a magnet you could.


would have been nice to be able to do a which hand.


Not sure about that John, as in that instance, wouldn’t it scream prop?


It depends on the context. Use it for the main effect first then quickly do a which hand for the closer. Not a complete 3 phase or anything like that that. Just a quick one two punch. Don't make a completely separate effect out of it but just an additional thing. The pocket it and move on. I like doing that.
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Thanks for the detailed and thoughtful reply Erik. I have had Ultra Lucky Coin now for a couple of weeks. I have done the Giobbi routine for years, and I can say in my limited field testing that this often gets much stronger reactions. And yes you're just getting two poker chips for your choice of kicker ending, but they do look and feel like high quality props. You also get video instructions that go into much more depth than most.
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Thanks for the detailed and thoughtful reply Erik. I have had Ultra Lucky Coin now for a couple of weeks. I have done the Giobbi routine for years, and I can say in my limited field testing that this often gets much stronger reactions. And yes you're just getting two poker chips for your choice of kicker ending, but they do look and feel like high quality props. You also get video instructions that go into much more depth than most.


Where can I find Roberto Giobbi’s version
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Where can I find Roberto Giobbi’s version


Card College Volume 1.
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Hi Erik,

Your post is very helpful in clarifying the added value of your project.
As you explained, I indeed made my own chip a while back but the durability of the label was poor and it looked bad after a few performances so I stopped doing the routine because I was lazy to stick a new label every time.
I think that you convinced me and I would like to try your routine now Smile
My sincere good luck with it!
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Looks like it is now out of stock at Penguin...
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Looks like it is now out of stock at Penguin...


Is it available anywhere else?
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John, the chips we used as the base are ferrous. So if you wanted to vanish it or holdout with a magnet you could.


would have been nice to be able to do a which hand.


Not sure about that John, as in that instance, wouldn’t it scream prop?


It depends on the context. Use it for the main effect first then quickly do a which hand for the closer. Not a complete 3 phase or anything like that that. Just a quick one two punch. Don't make a completely separate effect out of it but just an additional thing. The pocket it and move on. I like doing that.


Understood John. I could see it working in that context.
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Looks like it is now out of stock at Penguin...


Is it available anywhere else?



I did not anticipate how well it would do. More is winging its way to the Penguin Warehouse
right now. Should be available again early next week.
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Where can I find Roberto Giobbi’s version


Card College Volume 1.


Cheers Mike
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This is a genius bit of routining and really takes the Lucky Coin plot to the next level. I also have enjoyed the reactions I have received with Fine Print since Nick Locapo rereleased the gimmicked cards. Having a second chip with the Fine Print kicker is a nice added bonus.

But, I have to hand it to Erik. The craftsmanship of the Ultra Lucky Coin chip is excellent. He mentions in the instructions his original prototype and someday, I would love to ask him to see how rudimentary that was compared to these excellent produced props. (added bonus of living in the same town as Erik).

I don't add much to my close-up set, but this is going in my Pocket Management System to have with me on a daily basis. Highly recommended.
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Since this is selling well, is there any possibility of getting multiple reveals produced?

While not necessary for some venues, I prefer things where I can have different reveals so that in those venues where groups can talk later, they don't happen to find out that they all "chose" the same card.
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Since this is selling well, is there any possibility of getting multiple reveals produced?

While not necessary for some venues, I prefer things where I can have different reveals so that in those venues where groups can talk later, they don't happen to find out that they all "chose" the same card.


He goes over that in the instructional download........
It would be nice though to get an extra "disc" in the event of loss which could easily happen in a busy tablehopping environment.
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I had Erik perform this for us at the TRICS convention in Charlotte last November. I was eagerly awaiting the release by Penguin. Lucky I was able to snatch one of the last four sets. I had to brush up on my T** change but I think this is a great routine! Especially the "kicker" after the g*****k is removed. It leaves the audiences cold! I have only had a chance to perform this about a dozen times in 10 days or so, but from now on, I will keep the chip always in my pocket. Great misdirection with: "Your Card" disk!

Great job on the Ultra Lucky Coin Erik!

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Back in stock at Penguin (technically pre order but shipping on Friday the 4th)
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Wow - I finally found out about this and I'm a little excited. You see, I had been working towards this exact trick for at least the last three years or so, on and off.

I started with this kind of trick a long while ago after initially reading about Lucky Coin in Card College. I have since read about every variation I could find, and had worked Jon Armstrong's version for awhile before I came up with an idea to use the "Your Card" gag as Eric does for my own routines. I also played around with a 52-1 gaff on the back of a poker chip and used that gag for essentially the same thing. What I thought would be nice was the addition to remove the f*rce and make it possibly a free (even named) selection. With a memorized deck (or a few shuffled variations I had), it would then allow me the same freedoms Jon Armstrong's does in terms of possibly having a truly miracle effect, but also to have the cards out of my hands and spread on the table before the thought of card was named. Further, the gag meant that the card reveal at the end wouldn't be anti-climactic as it often seemed to be. Overall, the gag misdirection worked, and the gag got a laugh, and the trick was fine.

I can say though that after awhile I reverted back to the f*rce idea most of the time because it really is the part of the trick that gets the best reaction. Finding the card is OK, but getting it to be on the chip for a layperson who felt they had a completely free choice is truly magical. Of course, it always bothered me that this reveal comes first before the card is revealed and creates something of an anti-climax. What I really wanted was one where a gag was used to cover the card being under the chip, and then to have the chip actually reveal the card! At one point, I played with the idea of using a gimmicked chip to do essentially what Eric is offering, but I couldn't seem to get it to handle the way I wanted, and so hopefully Eric has solved that.

Overall, if the props are of high quality, Eric may have released the very trick I have been trying to create for myself for a quite some time now! The only question I have then is whether or not it'd be possible to get the card on the chip to be customized (or be able to duplicate the chip with a different reveal on your own) as I have a personal preference over which card is used for the reveal. That's a minor thing, though. I don't know how long Eric has had this in his repertoire, but I only wish I had learned about his version sooner and saved myself the hassle! Also, I know this post is long, but hopefully sharing my insights into the evolution of my own routine which inevitably lead me straight toward Eric's solution will help them see why this is different and what the advantage is compared to other versions. This seems to be the best version of this effect I have seen yet, so I can't wait to check it out.
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Stupid guy question: I want to grab one, but want to know what I'm getting as I'm only vaguely aware of the original routine. Which chip is one meant for the original routine, and then as I understand it, the other chip takes it farther? Which is which? I'm assuming the chip with the card under it goes first since the original routine reveals a mini-card or so? Then the card on the table is shown to be it. BUT is that how this goes?

Or is it then that the other chip with "your card" on it (as seen in the trailer) is used first (I like this idea since it doesn't telegraph the card on table reveal) and then *that* chip changes into the one with the pic of the card or something? Are these the two chips, if it's not bad form to ask? I ask because I may dig out (and learn) the original routine and see how I like it to see if I want to invest in this, which looks great. (Love that the chip(s) can live in your pocket in walk-around.)
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If you get the card wrong and the spectator wins the poker chip, you will have a second chip for backup
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Stupid guy question: I want to grab one, but want to know what I'm getting as I'm only vaguely aware of the original routine. Which chip is one meant for the original routine, and then as I understand it, the other chip takes it farther? Which is which? I'm assuming the chip with the card under it goes first since the original routine reveals a mini-card or so? Then the card on the table is shown to be it. BUT is that how this goes?

Or is it then that the other chip with "your card" on it (as seen in the trailer) is used first (I like this idea since it doesn't telegraph the card on table reveal) and then *that* chip changes into the one with the pic of the card or something? Are these the two chips, if it's not bad form to ask? I ask because I may dig out (and learn) the original routine and see how I like it to see if I want to invest in this, which looks great. (Love that the chip(s) can live in your pocket in walk-around.)


You get two chips -- both say "your card" on the back. One of the two chips has a tiny printed reveal around the border and the other one transforms into an examinable chip with the picture of the card. Both are included based on your preference
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