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Kaliix
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No excuse, I did troll. So did you, many more times than I did I might add. But I also made several points that I've seen no attempt from you to discuss or rebut. You are just pounding the table and proving that you have nothing to add to the topic or discussion.

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On Feb 23, 2019, Dannydoyle wrote:
Hilariously pathetic excuses.

How silly claiming somehow you "succumbed" and started trolling. You were trolling and it is as simple as that.

Yes it is easier to call me one to mitigate your actions even further in your mind. Nobody is being indignant, b simply pointing out your behavior. Doing so does not qualify as trolling as desperate as you are for that to be true.
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Well, Kaliix, I do not have a "graduate teaching degree"! Since the early '50s, I have never taught anyone, magic. I have mentored dozens. I've mentioned some names like Henning, McAllister, Windley. There are many others who are now successful performers.

I always told them, "I can't teach you anything! I can only help you learn!" --And, I did.

An old Greek philosopher, Sophocles, said, a few millenia ago, that, "One learns by doing the thing."

Those that convinced me that they wanted to learn, how to perform magic, were counseled, and guided in what books to study. (Not just books with methods of tricks, but books on showmanship (Nelms et al) and, principles (Tarbell)). We discussed performing techniques, presentation, tempo, timing and time, etc. They began to realize that, magic is not inherently entertaining! They began to realize that tricks are but tools that magicians use to entertain. Those things cannot be learned in a three hour session.

Some of them, I later helped get work. They are now successful, and. thankful.
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On Feb 25, 2019, Dick Oslund wrote:
Those things cannot be learned in a three hour session.


A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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On Feb 27, 2019, imgic wrote:
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On Feb 25, 2019, Dick Oslund wrote:
Those things cannot be learned in a three hour session.


A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.


True enough. But it does not ONLY take a single step.
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On Feb 27, 2019, Dannydoyle wrote:

True enough. But it does not ONLY take a single step.


Yup - even if one must use a cane. I am forever introducing performance magic as a hobby, discipline or profession.

I do not want nay reader to think I do not tech tricks to kids or seniors, or later attempt to morph that into performing magic.

My early comments on this thread were guided by my interpretation of the OP and the phrase "been asked."
Never did get an answer as to who did the asking - and important factor in deciding what, where or if.

Often the first step is to perform a magic effect and refuse to perform tricks or dance on a puppet string.
That first step can be the planting of a seed. You can then wait for the proof of interest in the observed fruit.

There is no way of knowing how many can watch Danny's show and later become interested in magic.
But, we can know it happens ...
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I do not teach Magic to anyone. When Magic is revealed, it destroys the mystery and wonder. Nobody taught me. I had to learn everything myself. I was at a Magic shop and someone told this beginner Magician that I was very good and he ask me what tricks I do. I said, if you think Magic is about learning tricks, you are wrong. The Magic is about you. If you are a good entertainer, you can entertain without any Magic Tricks.
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I do not teach Magic to anyone. When Magic is revealed, it destroys the mystery and wonder. Nobody taught me. I had to learn everything myself. I was at a Magic shop and someone told this beginner Magician that I was very good and he ask me what tricks I do. I said, if you think Magic is about learning tricks, you are wrong. The Magic is about you. If you are a good entertainer, you can entertain without any Magic Tricks.


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On Feb 6, 2019, TKD27 wrote:
I'll teach anyone magic. I just don't see the problem.

James Munton sells a DVD on doing a magic class as a birthday party show. It's aimed at kids in the 8-12ish range, but it might be useful for you.

Tricks I love to teach include:

- Key Card Trick
- Mind Reading Crayons where you scrape the wax with your finger nail
- Two Card Monte (I have my own branded give aways for this, but you can teach it to kids by having them glue cards together).
- Linking Paper Clips

For really young kids (under eight), far and away my favorite trick for them is a coin slide. You know - the cheap plastic toy that you put a quarter in to whole then insert it in a sleeve and vanishes. It's completely self working and they basically fool themselves with it all day long, it's wonderful.


^ ^ THIS! ^ ^ Quite excellent, Matt. Some people are just WAY to uptight about magic secrets where there are PLENTY of good tricks to teach. And also as mentioned earlier- The Jaw Droppers videos are a great resource.
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On Feb 18, 2019, Dick Oslund wrote:
With all due respect to your age, and professional experience, kinesis, I think that you should KNOW how to mentor teenagers.



Yet that isn't what he asked.
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On Feb 22, 2019, adrianrbf wrote:
I might not be a professional magician, but I know a lot about teenagers and about teaching, thus let me share some thoughts.

there is so much more in teaching magic to teenagers that the antagonism "exposing secrets" and "raise new magicians". Magic is empowerment, magic is thinking outside the box, magic is a code of honour, magic is fun. It is worthwile teaching magic to teenagers even if they will not become professional magicians.

And let's be honest, there are secrets and "secrets". Every kid has an uncle who can do a "pick a card"-trick and find the picked card again with help of a key card. Revealing the key card method is not really exposing a secret. Still, it is empowerment and fun. And one could show them, that with the same principle, one can come to different effects - thus teaching them the importance of presentation.

Sticking to cards, I would also teach them some easy-to-learn flourishes. When I was a teenager, I had a lot of fun learning the Charlier cut. It is no secret, it takes some practice, but it isn't rocket science. And it can even serve as a test: Those who practise enough to master the Charlier cut are ready to work for their magical skills.


VERY WELL PUT, Adrian! I remember learning the Charlier Cut also!
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On Feb 23, 2019, HeronsHorse wrote:
Teaching a false transfer is also basically giving away lots of secrets in one!


Wasn't there a magician on Penn and Teller's, Fool Us that taught a false transfer to the audience and then went on to use it in his act, fooling everyone anyway?
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