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TeddyBoy Special user New York, NY 604 Posts |
I am currently working my way through the Card College series, now into Volume 3. These chapters really are far more challenging than Volumes 1 and 2-the complexity of the moves described is really kicked up a notch, which is great. At the end of each chapter are usually two effects that incorporate one or two of the moves described in the chapter. Frankly, so far these tricks have not really excited me. So, the problem is that I do not have enough tricks/effects with which to practice and increase my facility with these sleights. Rather than thumb through some of the books I have I was wondering if there is a source that indexes or organizes tricks/effects according to the moves required. For example, a book divided into sections such as "Tricks using palming techniques", "Tricks using double turnover", etc. If it does not yet exist, I bet if it were produced it would be a big seller for newbies like myself who are taking a technical and methodical approach to learn card magic.
Thanks for listening.
So many sleights...so little time.
"Slow...deliberate...natural." Bill Tarr Cheers, Teddy |
Ravenspur Regular user Granby, MA 167 Posts |
Teddy,
I'm not working hard on sleights at the moment, but in another thread I started there was some good advice on practicing including some links. You were on the thread, I don't know if you saw all the posts, but here they are anyway. https://theburnabykid.com/nwmb/2018/01/1......shuffle/ has annotations on RRCTM. ( https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......forum=41 ) Madhouse Manor's Guide to the first two chapters of RRTCM. ( https://madhousemanor.com/2017/05/22/roy......ion/amp/ ) |
TeddyBoy Special user New York, NY 604 Posts |
Thanks Ravenspur, I will definitely take a look.
So many sleights...so little time.
"Slow...deliberate...natural." Bill Tarr Cheers, Teddy |
mlippo Inner circle Trieste (Italy) 1227 Posts |
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On Feb 12, 2019, TeddyBoy wrote: Teddy Boy, you're right in saying that in Card College 3 the sheer number of tricks is smaller that the first two volumes. This means that there are many techniques explained, but no trick that goes with many of them. After all, keep in mind that the real course of sleight of hand card magic is in the first two volumes and with just that you can perform very good card magic! Volume 3 and 4 add lot of stuff, but, in my opinion you don't have to nor need to master everything there is! My advice would be to take a good look at the various sleights in there, try them but not necessarily study them and practise them till you know them to perfection. Too much stuff and not everything is really easy, as you noticed yourself. See if any of these sleights may be used for a trick in volume 1 or 2, replacing the one(s) explained there therefore improving the handling of the trick! If you have any other source for card tricks (for example other Giobbi's books, Lorayne's books, Steve Beam's Semi Automatic Card Tricks series, Nick Trost's books just to name a few), you may then find Card College 3 and 4 useful to learn a sleight not explained but only named or to learn it better than from a quick explanation in the book or in a video (as is often the case). Anyway, I think there are great tricks in there, worthy to be studied and added to your real working repertoire and maybe dumping some of the first tricks you learnt in the previous books. Remember that it's better to know 15-20 tricks very well, rather than many more, but not so well .. And when you go down to 15-20 tricks you really want to pick the best ones! In Card College 3 you have: - The Invisible Card - The Master Grip - A Sure Bet - Ambitious 1-2-3-4 - The Time Machine - The Strasbourg Waltz - Set-Reset Plus - The Dance of The Cannibals - Triumph and a few others that are all worth thinking to be studied well and added to your repertoire because they are GOOD effects and you would certainly find a place and a time in which perform them and have success with them! Let me know what you think Mark |
TeddyBoy Special user New York, NY 604 Posts |
Thank you Mark.
Just as you suggest, I have been preparing to take the newly learned sleights from CC3 and use them to modify other tricks I know (and hope to learn in the future). For this reason I have been setting aside Scarne on Card Tricks, The Card Magic of Nick Trost, Secrets of Bro John Hamman and numerous books by Harry Lorayne. Given your obvious knowledge and experience it is gratifying to know that I have planned to get on the right track. When you think of it, it is probably an effective way to "master" these sleights rather than simply repeating various effects. Further, this approach should help me develop a sense of how my style of magic will evolve. I am about to tangle the Strasbourg Waltz, Set-Reset Plus, and the Dance of the Cannibals - these false counts make me nuts, so I hope I enjoy these tricks. My wife loves the Invisible Card. However, I think that Sure Bet is one of the finest tricks I've encountered anywhere so far. That Dai Vernon addition is absolutely brilliant! I even emailed Professor Giobbi to let him know. He was very nice and indicated that the chapter on the Riffle Shuffle was his personal favorite in CC3-I can hardly wait. Thanks again for your thoughts.
So many sleights...so little time.
"Slow...deliberate...natural." Bill Tarr Cheers, Teddy |
mlippo Inner circle Trieste (Italy) 1227 Posts |
Well, then you DID find good tricks in the book!
:-) I didn't say it in my previous post, but The Dance of the Cannibals is an absolute favourite of mine and is a routine I am very often asked to show again. Work on that and just that for now. It's a whole show in a few minutes! Vollmer's routine has a six as four EC which can be difficult if you're still learning. Tackle that one in a second moment... One more thing: Card College 5 is an absolute treasure trove of wonderful tricks and routines. If you haven't got it yet, think of getting it. Very few sleights and tecniques are explained, but the routines are top notch and many of them are not particularely difficult and can be done with the sleights yoy already know. And those you can't do today, would be a good opportunity to look up and learn a single technique from one of the previous volumes. I'm a fan of learning a sleight because you came across a trick you like and uses it. Mark |
TeddyBoy Special user New York, NY 604 Posts |
Mark, I definitely found some good tricks, but many, many of the sleights I learned and practiced do not get quickly "used" so that they can be quickly forgotten. To some extent my gripe is a "quantity" rather than "quality" issue.
So many sleights...so little time.
"Slow...deliberate...natural." Bill Tarr Cheers, Teddy |
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