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Hi, I'm a beginner magician and new to this site (sorry if this is posted in the wrong section) but I've been doing magic for a little over a week now and without many other hobbies I've really been enjoying it. The reason I started magic as a hobby is I've watched Shin Lim's tricks and they blew my mind. I've also been eyeing the starter kit item in Shin Lim's shop, and recently it has restocked. It includes his 52 shades red v3 and the gone deck effect. I was curious as to whether it was too early for me to pick something up like this? I'm still probably going to buy it and save it if the techniques are too difficult and then learn until I'm able to perform the tricks within the starter kit. If they are too difficult, (which I'm 99% sure they will be) how long would it roughly take for me to learn the techniques needed to perform these tricks?
Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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Learn the basics - with a borrowed deck of cards....first.
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I know the basics - I can palm a card, backpalm, double lift, I know a few basic lifts.
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I'm talking about jaw-dropping impromptu card stuff.
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Trilogy - if you have only been practicing magic for a week, the you need to listen to Harry. Start with the basics - you may know how to perform a few slights, but you need to do them very well to perform real magic.

Harry has some excellent books and DVDs that would get you started.

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How old are you, Trilogy?
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If you've been doing this for less than 6 months then you need to not only know how but be perfect at those moves and more. It is fun though, just get into practicing those basics because you'll find that any kind of kit of tricks you buy will very likely require the same moves to be done -and done very well before anything much can be performed.
In answer to your question I'd say it is too early for you to make such a purchase. It could well become money wasted. I would get a book that takes you from beginner to proficient... Royal Road, Card College or Amateur Magicians Handbook, Harry Loraynes books as suggested... There's a lot you can choose from. You will soon realise that a week, or two or six, is not a long time in this journey. Smile
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Shin Lim is also a classically trained pianist. He did not begin his study of music by performing concertos. 52 Shades requires lots of money, time and effort just to make the props that he performs. He is teaching an entire act that he spent many years perfecting. You don't start out trying to become Shin Lim. He gives you the spark that creates the sense of wonder. Now you need to start at the beginning and develop your own style, and your own character by learning the basics first before trying to be someone else. Harry Lorayne is well known in the magic community and he has been doing this for a very long time. His words should be given much weight.
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To have Mr. Lorayne give you advice, take it. Don't run before you can walk. Practice the basics and move on from there. Supplement books with DVDs. This way you don't copy someone else. Don't chase the newest coolest effect. With proper training you may find you will know how things are done by watching vs buying the effect. Perform for strangers whenever possible. Most importantly have fun.
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I'll echo the above. Shin Lim's work is technically fairly advanced--but even more than the "moves" he uses, he relies on a lot of experience it takes to make everything (sleight of hand or otherwise) look smooth and flawless. That's not to say a beginner couldn't put in some long hours of practice and pull it off, but I'd argue that to be successful in that kind of magic, it's important not only to know the particular techniques used, but also *why* those techniques work, and you get that by putting some time into a serious study of the art, beginning with the basics, and expanding outward.

Now, am I saying not to buy Shin's products? Not necessarily. Sometimes it's useful to have something like that as a goal to build toward. But I wouldn't expect to be able to use any of it any time soon.
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