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mtpascoe Inner circle 1932 Posts |
Oops. Just pasted something from a different post. Disregard!
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mtpascoe Inner circle 1932 Posts |
This is the message I wanted to submit.
Once you repeat a trick more than three times, you have a big problem in ending it. This is one of those tricks that have caused me headaches in that it doesn’t have an ending. I’ve been playing with a few, but haven’t come up with one I like. Two possibilities is change the way the trick looks. In The Amateur Magicians Handbook, Henry Hay doesn’t use the Ambitious premise. He shows a deck filled with jokers. So he is not doing a magic effect, but simply showing that the deck is filled with the same card. Then the finale is that the entire deck changes. This makes for a stronger ending. Basically he just shifts the magic moment. Another idea that I use only because I haven’t worked out a good enough solution is to go into Whit Hayden’s card to pocket. This routine has a great kicker ending and you don’t have to worry about doing it again. A third premise I had was working a story like Vernon would do that has a beginning, middle, and end. I was even playing with the idea of calling it The Trick That Never Ends. It just goes on and on and on. Then build up to some kind of ending where the magician gets frustrated and ends it. So the real problem then is to find an ending to the story that is strong. That way the story has an ending, but not the trick itself. This would be easier. Anyway, good luck. |
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mtpascoe Inner circle 1932 Posts |
After I posted this, I thought of a possible ending to the trick that never ends. “The only way to end this trick is by destroying the card.” Then destroy it only to have it restored by your favorite method. “Here, you keep it, then you’ll be stuck with the card trick that never ends.”
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Chris Westfall Loyal user Toronto, Canada 252 Posts |
Sometimes when I do my AC routine, I like to act as if the card continuously showing up is uncontrolable and it irritates me. This generally gets a laugh. When that is the case I like to end my routine with something I came across by accident. The deck is wrapped in a rubber band to prevent the card from doing anything at all, and the top card will visually melt through the band and keep the rest of the deck wrapped in the rubber band.
You can find this on the Stars of magic dvd set, dvd#2, Paul Harris addition. It is the final phase of the trick "RUBBER BAND SCAM" |
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magicator Loyal user 201 Posts |
Nice one, Tdot. I like that. Both the plot of the annoying card and the ending.
Isolating the deck and have the card come out through the elastic band is a progression of power. It seems like a nice extension to ACR. I have tried that plot to using 2 cards. You do ACR with card 1 and offer to try it with card 2, but instead the first selection keeps coming back (aka Tommy Wonder's 'Deja-Reverse'). |
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Jonathan Smith Regular user 125 Posts |
Daryl's FISM finish with the rope is very good.
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animation Regular user 120 Posts |
I think a logical ending depends on the presentation. I like the pop up move and love micheal Ammar's justification for ending with the move. He provides a solution to a problem that didn't really exist,' I know what the problem is, all the backs are different so you cant actually see the moment when the card comes to the top, so I am gonna bend the card in a way that's known as the gambler's crimp....' and so on. With his presentation the audience can clearly see the effect is finished, any more is over kill. Watch his performace below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXykLaZDjxM |
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Alex Linian Inner circle Peru 1277 Posts |
The nice thing about the ambitious card plot is that it can be presented in many different ways, emphasizing different aspects of the event depending on what you want out of the audience. And yes, depending on what it is that you emphasize, you will arrive at the answer on how to end it. You can emphasize what it is that makes it travel to the top, you can emphasize the moment when it arrives at the top, you can emphasize the fairness of the card being placed in the middle... and each of these things will lead you to different choices for a logical last action, out of which you must choose what´s more convenient for you, most effective for the audience.
You can see (though not really hear, cause the performance is in spanish) the way I like to end the ambitious card at around the 5.30 mark in the following link, hope you enjoy it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppRLzSsUURU
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animation Regular user 120 Posts |
Nice performance
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magicfish Inner circle 7006 Posts |
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On 2004-05-14 12:37, juton wrote: Check the book- it's even better. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
A few different endings appeal to me, depending on my mood. A couple include:
1. The spectator making it happen the last time. 2. Using a one-way where the ambitious card is the odd card, suggesting along the way that they "probably know how it's done." Invariably someone says "They're all the same." Then at the end...yup, they are, BUT...
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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c_guenther New user 21 Posts |
A true ambitious card routine only has the signed card continually finding it's way up to the top of the deck in various fashions. That being said I suppose that the pop-up move is a good way to finish it. However, I feel that the routine is somewhat boring and that it needs a little pizaz.
When I perform the ambitious card, I try to end with the card rising to the top of the deck in a different way... I use the "almost impromptu rising card" effect. I feel that the AIRC is one of the best worker card tricks around. So visual and magical and a perfect ending to the ACR. But... Why stop the routine with an AIRC? I once watched Gazzo entertain a bunch of tourists with his version of the ACR. He didn't do AIRC but he did go from ACR to 2 Card Monte (complete with having another card signed in a casual manner before hand, used in a quick side trick, forgotten about as he started 2CM with two aces and then sure enough both signed cards returned in the finale of 2CM), and while you'd think that was easily enough for a card trick, he managed to then have the signed card appear in his pocket over and over and over setting the crowd up for Dave Williamson's 51 Cards to Pocket for the grand finale. IT BLEW THEM ALL AWAY. If time allows and I know my audience is going nowhere, I ALWAYS try to emulate that routine. |
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msmaster Special user 522 Posts |
Daryl's AC rope ending that won him FISM
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Mr Rubiks Regular user 134 Posts |
I'll be honest, I didn't read through the topic so if I'm repeating someone else's reply I'm sorry.
End with the Card to Forehead and go directly into Ambitious Classic with the signed card as the climax. Works for me every time. |
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John Carey V.I.P. 1057 Posts |
A face up rise of the selection with its 3 mates works nicely for me.
John. Re: the classic pop up card ending, Bernard Bilis has the spectator put a bend in the signed card and upon its return this card is shifted to the top retaining pressure on this card. Then he does the pop up card. sweeeeeet |
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Steve Rodman New user 17 Posts |
I use Card to Wallet at the end of my Ambitious Card routine. Standard ACR moves gleaned from all the classic works. I have the wallet on my website. It's the hip style (or back pocket type). PM for info.
Steve |
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
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On 2004-09-16 01:11, yendor wrote: I second this. The deck is placed in the box kept open. The signed card is openly inserted half way into it around the bottom of the deck. The inserted card is visibly seen to rise all the way through the other cards up to the top of the deck where it is simply pulled out and turned face up to confirm that it is indeed the signed card. No manipulation in between, the card simply goes up through the other cards in full view. It's a miracle and the (sophisticated) gimmick is straight from the best part of a genius' brain.
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dyrwolf New user The timbers of Fennario 94 Posts |
Something which uses a duplicate signed card to start. Many possibilities.
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MueCard Inner circle 2964 Posts |
I don't know, if the following was already mentioned:
In the end I let the spectator try to perform the Ambitious Card, I demonstrate it with a pasted together card block and two single cards... Se also Korem's THE OMNI DECK (Korem Without Limit(1985),p.152) |
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dj Inner circle 1178 Posts |
This here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzz4ZGvRUjk&feature=related "Makes a KILLER ending for any ambitious card routine. I have no idea how it works!" - Dave Buck "Thanks again for your tricks. I have to admitt that I LOVE them!" - David Stone "Some really crazy stuff and your gimmicks are the highest quality!" - Jean-Luc Bertrand |
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