|
|
Go to page [Previous] 1~2~3..7~8~9~10~11~12 [Next] | ||||||||||
magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
P.s. there are certain tricks I do in the spectators hands. I mentioned fugitive coin already, there are a couple more, but I generally try to keep the magic in my hands.
For good reason. Missing out? Not in my opinion. And Ortiz' Do as I Did is not an example of magic happening in the spectators hands if that was what you implied with, "one can only wonder why" Magic happening in their hands is much different than having them shuffle, cut, etc. |
|||||||||
magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
I'd like to stay on improvements or lack thereof. Magic in their hands might be great for another thread.
|
|||||||||
The Burnaby Kid Inner circle St. John's, Canada 3158 Posts |
Quote:
On Sep 14, 2019, magicfish wrote: There are features that could be added to the trick to improve it, yes.
JACK, the Jolly Almanac of Card Knavery, a free card magic resource for beginners.
|
|||||||||
magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
I would like to hear them if you're game.
I feel it cannot be improved upon. But I understand if youd like to keep your ideas to yourself. |
|||||||||
The Burnaby Kid Inner circle St. John's, Canada 3158 Posts |
Quote:
On Sep 14, 2019, magicfish wrote: When the effect is one of coincidence then yeah, the fact that those things happen in their hands has a direct relationship with the power of the effect.
JACK, the Jolly Almanac of Card Knavery, a free card magic resource for beginners.
|
|||||||||
Rupert Pupkin Inner circle 1452 Posts |
The lack of one's ability to improve a trick does not mean that trick cannot be improved.
If that were the case, Matrix wouldn't exist. |
|||||||||
magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
Mind you, whose hands the magic occurs in has a valid place here as it could mean an improvement, or as in some cases a detriment.
Would Johnny Ace Palmers FISM routine be better if he handed the cups to the spek and she made the chicks appear? Or they appear in her purse? |
|||||||||
magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
Quote:
On Sep 14, 2019, Rupert Pupkin wrote: Nobody here mentioned that they personally couldn't improve it. |
|||||||||
magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
Quote:
On Sep 14, 2019, The Burnaby Kid wrote: Correct, but the magic doesn't occur in their hands. (Sponge bunnies, copper silver, bent penny etc.) |
|||||||||
The Burnaby Kid Inner circle St. John's, Canada 3158 Posts |
Quote:
On Sep 14, 2019, magicfish wrote: Here's two possibilities: 1) The spectator pulls out their own cards and shuffles them, before going under the table. The cards are still shown to match. 2) The magician has his deck out on the table before the trick starts. When it comes time to reveal the card he reversed, the spectator removes those cards from the box, spreads to the reversed card themselves, and then compares the two. Furthermore, we could compare it to the original ID. The addition of a second deck has the strength that nobody sees the spectator's reversed card until after the magician places theirs on the table. But, it would be improved if the magician placed their reversed card onto the table, the spectator just named a random card, and the two matched. And, of course, there's the question of whether or not we should be using cards in the first place for an effect of coincidence, but we can leave that for another discussion.
JACK, the Jolly Almanac of Card Knavery, a free card magic resource for beginners.
|
|||||||||
magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
Again you're bringing things to the table that don't exist in reality. Your logic isn't based on logic.
Ok, I can improve twisting the aces by handing a spectator 4 face down aces and every time they count them a different ace is face up. Just one problem. As your partner said earlier, magic isn't real. So let's try to maintain some practicality here. |
|||||||||
The Burnaby Kid Inner circle St. John's, Canada 3158 Posts |
Quote:
On Sep 14, 2019, magicfish wrote: Except Juan Tamariz has done exactly that. I could tell you how, but honestly, if you haven't liked any of the other ideas in this thread, you wouldn't like this one either, which is too bad, because it is diabolical.
JACK, the Jolly Almanac of Card Knavery, a free card magic resource for beginners.
|
|||||||||
magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
No. He hasn't.
|
|||||||||
The Burnaby Kid Inner circle St. John's, Canada 3158 Posts |
Uh... no magicfish, I'm sorry, but he's done what I described.
JACK, the Jolly Almanac of Card Knavery, a free card magic resource for beginners.
|
|||||||||
Ray J Inner circle St. Louis, MO 1503 Posts |
Quote:
On Sep 14, 2019, magicfish wrote: Lol
It's never crowded on the extra mile....
|
|||||||||
Rupert Pupkin Inner circle 1452 Posts |
Quote:
On Sep 14, 2019, magicfish wrote: Oh, I thought that's why you brought up Eugene's trick and said, "I can't think of a way to improve it." Just a non sequitur, I guess? |
|||||||||
magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
Quote:
On Sep 14, 2019, The Burnaby Kid wrote: You didn't describe anything except a couple of ideas to make Darwin Ortiz' trick better. Admirable and interesting, but not improvements in my opinion. Are you saying that Tamsriz has improved the Ortiz trick? |
|||||||||
magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
Quote:
On Sep 14, 2019, Rupert Pupkin wrote: I think some tricks cannot be improved. Not just by me. I thought I made that clear from the beginning. |
|||||||||
magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
Magicians tend to obsessively latch on to and adere to phrases and concepts unnecessarily like: He stopped thinking too soon or, the magic is always stronger in the spectators' hands. I find it cyclical. Cant wait for the next flawed frenzy.
|
|||||||||
Rupert Pupkin Inner circle 1452 Posts |
So what's the point of asking Burnaby if HE can improve a trick? In a discussion like this, one assumes it's a rhetorical point. If it's not, then... Well, I guess we're back to the non sequitur possibility.
|
|||||||||
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » The workers » » Can every trick be improved on? (13 Likes) | ||||||||||
Go to page [Previous] 1~2~3..7~8~9~10~11~12 [Next] |
[ Top of Page ] |
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2024 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved. This page was created in 0.03 seconds requiring 5 database queries. |
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic. > Privacy Statement < |