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Karl Miller
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Hi Frank! I just walked through "CopSilBrass" in a recent session, and I really liked it. I have also played with Bob Kohler's fantastic version, "Sucker Copper, Silver, Brass" from his note "Kohler's Tap". Frank, don't you have a version of this? I'd love to see it sometime!

If you are using the standard C/S/B set, Cody Fisher's routine is great. I love the fact that it doesn't use your pocket. That was always the problem for me with most of the routines out there. I didn't want to expose the extra set of coins and I didn't want to use my pockets at all.

This is a very versatile gaff, but I have seen very few routines that shy away from the transposition effect (not that it is bad). I like Curtis' presentation idea, and I'd like to develop it a bit, if that is OK with Curtis.

-Karl
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On 2004-05-15 22:48, Curtis Kam wrote:
Reed McClintock's routines follow Gary Kurtz's "Trio in Three", a routine that has influenced many of the top coin guys active today. These routines use playing cards instead of the pocket, and add a "matirx" like feel to the usual transpositions. Better endings are also part of the bargain.


How is Reed's routine Compared to Gary's? I use Gary's all of the time so if it's worth looking at let me know.
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Karl, feel free, but do keep in mind the earlier post about going table-to-table inciting fisticuffs. I trust you'll choose your audiences wisely.

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Dave,

Reed's routine started out as an attempt to accomplish "Trio in Three" with the standard C/S/B gaff. As you know, there is a moment where that is not possible, since the gaff differs from the "2 Copper, 1 Silver" Kurtz uses. Reed not only solved the problem, but extended the effect a little. The spectator actually gets to choose which coin will vanish and appear next.

It goes on from there, adding bits and pieces that amplify the original effect. It takes more guts, but gets more glory.
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Don't worry, Curtis. I am VERY careful about audience selection, and I will not use the presentation exactly like you posted (maybe using different countries or completely different objects for that matter, I just liked the premise of having the other coins following the leader, but finding the leader somewhere else, etc.). A wonderful idea! Thank you Curtis.
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How about a "lost coins" type of premise. As in, " I have several coins here that all appear to be lost. This copper coin, a Mexican 20 centavo, really belongs in Mexico, since you can't use it here. And this is a brass Chinese coin, which is really far from home. Now the half dollar is US currency, but it's US currency from 60 years ago, so it appears to be lost in time rather than in space" (I use the Johnson silver walking lib CSB set, however a similar comment could be made about the Kennedy version, such as, "This coin is US currency, but half dollars haven't been used widely as currency in many years", or, "This half dollar has a Denver mint mark, and we're in [insert city or state here]...")

"Even though it seems that I've found these lost coins, they're still compelled for some reason to be lost..." Then go into any type / version of a CSB routine you like to do.

just a premise / patter idea that I had last night while thinking about the effect... probably nothing new, but I thought it merited mention. I haven't used it, but I am thinking about cleaning it up and giving it a go.

I'm not as brave as some, and try to leave current political turmoil out of my routines. I look for more general premises that has some level of interest to them, and leave the political banter & observation for Sunday morning news shows.

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Gary Kurtz has a great line in Trio in Three. "You've heard of foreign exchange? Now you've SEEN it!" THis is said as the two for one sequence is executed the first time. Lines like this keep a routine moving. Long stories often provide a justification for what is happening but can cause the show to bog down if you're not careful.

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A long long time ago... in a city not so far away...

Showing a half dollar on the palm of my right hand...

"Here is fifty cents... but not in American money" Delivered as hand turns palm down dropping Mexican and Chinese coins onto the mat.

"The half dollar is over here... trick isn't it?"Reaching into left pocket and showing half dollar.

The story or premise can be implied. And the magic/action can be very direct.

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On 2004-05-17 20:39, Karl Miller wrote:
Hi Frank! I just walked through "CopSilBrass" in a recent session, and I really liked it. I have also played with Bob Kohler's fantastic version, "Sucker Copper, Silver, Brass" from his note "Kohler's Tap." Frank, don't you have a version of this? I'd love to see it sometime!


I also have Kohler's version. I forgot all about that. I'll have to re-visit.

My version just came from reading "CopSilBrass" in the book, trying it and saying... I can't do that. But how could I do that?

So I stripped everything out of it that was not easy and started from scratch.

Actually I thought it was a very good exercise and one I've adopted from then on.

I take a look at an effect and try to make it as easy to do as possible using the slights I am comfortable with.

Anyway, I shared it with Geoff Latta and he told me it was actually very close to Scotty York's original handling.

So I claim nothing. I just re-worked the slights, dumbed it down and made a "... for sissies" version that I felt comfortable performing right away.



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Bob Kohler tips his mitt on his routine in his booklet "Kohler's Tap"
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the saddest are, "It might have been"

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On 2004-05-17 22:09, Curtis Kam wrote:
Dave,

Reed's routine started out as an attempt to accomplish "Trio in Three" with the standard C/S/B gaff. As you know, there is a moment where that is not possible, since the gaff differs from the "2 Copper, 1 Silver" Kurtz uses.


Yeah I like the idea of being able to have 3 different coins throughout the routine instead of 2 copper ones, this could cause some confusion. That's why I'm having a custom made 2copper/1silver coin made so the mexican centavo is a 10 mexican peso. This way you don't have to worry about the hole in the Chinese Coin.

Thanks for the description, do you know where it is in print?
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