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takeachance Inner circle 3777 Posts 
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This has been released again but with a much cheaper quality hankerchief. The quality of the original was the only reason I was going to buy it.The method is an old and and available in many publications. I went to their web page and it stated "they will choose what color they send" of 3 variants, gotta luv it when the consumer has no choice. Disappointing.
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rowland Inner circle 1526 Posts
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Received this today and I don’t think the teaching is great. The first penetration is really easy but the second one is giving me problems. I’m pretty sure if I keep practising the hanky is going to rip. Not sure if my technique is wrong or one part of the pin could do with being shorter. The pin is the new version so a standard safety pin. Anybody got any tips on this move.
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Magical Moments Veteran user 341 Posts
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Although I believe I am familiar with this effect and method, I have not performed it for many years.
If I recall correctly, there are two ways to eliminate the possibility of damaging the handkerchief. One way is to alter the pin and the other is to consider angles and carefully using the correct ones. Also, acquiring the ideal safety pin will help but nowadays, I am not so sure that safety pin selection is what it used to be. You used to see them on display racks all over the place a long time ago. No matter what handkerchief you use, improper or careless maneuvering of the safety pin will damage the handkerchief to some degree. Hope that helps! |
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yachanin Inner circle Cleveland, OH 2105 Posts
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Hi All,
I have the original "old-style" safety pin and was curious to know if the technique used with the "modern" safety pin was exactly the same or do you learn a slightly different technique? Thanks. Regards, Steve
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Magical Moments Veteran user 341 Posts
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On Jan 22, 2021, yachanin wrote: Good question! I was wondering that myself. I am assuming that it uses the old classic technique but cannot be certain because I do not own it. Anyone? We could visit the appropriate place on the Café to discuss appropriately. |
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emyers99 Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 4748 Posts
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I’ve been doing this for a few yrs and love it but the teaching is usually mediocre. I learned it from Vigil at his Penguin lecture so you can pick that up if you need more help. The handkerchief will never rip but it will show wear after about ten performances. So make sure you get one that is self healing. I believe mine are all cotton. Regardless of pin style, handling should be the same.
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yin_howe Special user Malaysia 985 Posts
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I wonder why this doesn't come with Paul Vigil's teaching.
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michaelpenkul New user Toronto Canada 86 Posts
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I agree about the trailer, it was shot beautifully, but super convoluted which made it hard to pay attention; didn't leave me interested in the trick at all
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emyers99 Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 4748 Posts
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Teaching for this effect is always confusing. There’s no great/easy way to explain what’s happening so you pretty much just have to try it yourself with props in hand. That’s what I did. But what’s cool about this is that even though I’ve performed it a lot, I still don’t fully understand why/how it works. It just doesn’t seem possible that it’s doing what it’s doing. It’s fun because it actually fools me as much as it fools spectators and I’m not aware of any other trick that falls into that category.
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yin_howe Special user Malaysia 985 Posts
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On Jan 23, 2021, emyers99 wrote: Hi Eric, I know Paul Vigil's penguin Lecture contains much more material. But solely for the Phantom Pin, would you say the teaching on the penguin lecture is better than the one by TCC?
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emyers99 Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 4748 Posts
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I don’t have the TCC version but the Vigil lecture is good enough to learn it. You will have to rewind a few times but that’s how I learned it.
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rowland Inner circle 1526 Posts
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On Feb 10, 2021, yin_howe wrote: Definitely yes |
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yin_howe Special user Malaysia 985 Posts
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Definitely yes [/quote] Thanks rowland. Might have to save up for it then. Still wonder why Paul did not include his teaching with this since it seems like it is a collab. Would have made this way better.
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NicholasD25 Veteran user 382 Posts
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It was mentioned earlier that the handkerchief would never rip. It most certainly can rip. I'd recommend practicing with an old hank. Each pin is a little different: duller, sharper etc.
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emyers99 Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 4748 Posts
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I’ve never come close to a rip but you will start to get pin holes after about ten performances. So buy several handkerchiefs
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BernieSantos New user 87 Posts
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On Mar 27, 2019, dyoung wrote: I find it all a bit of a con. So called independent magic shops being little more than Murphy magic franchises, with little knowledge of what has appeared on their sites over night. And the 'in stock' referring to Murphys stock levels not what they have in their own shop. That is a bloody lie. On one site, the self proclaimed 'shop with stock', almost everything is a 2-3 day special order with a no return policy. |
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Woody. New user With this one, I wrote 13 Posts
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Hi Guys
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This routine is one hundred years old, so... The first effect is really easy to do; just do what the trailer shows  . For the second effect, you can read the third volume of the Tarbell Course in Magic ("The Phantom Safety Pin" - p. 79); it's very well explained . And yes, you can do it with a regular safety pin and... A regular handkerchief .
In general, I like TCC products but for this one, 30 bucks for a such well known routine, it's a little bit expensive to me. My2Cents W. |
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