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magicfish Inner circle 7006 Posts |
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On Jun 22, 2019, landmark wrote: Ditto |
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magicfish Inner circle 7006 Posts |
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On Jun 22, 2019, art85y wrote: ...................uh........ohhhh. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I must be a fool. I trust the system. Yea point to OJ. Point to those things that go wrong with the system. There are also a heck of a lot of things that go right with it.
The 4th amendment is part of that "system" along with the 6th. They work well as far as I am concerned. Easy to point to things that are wrong and whine. (Landmark seems to make a lifetime achievement of it LOL.) But right were the rubber meets the road it is not always that way.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
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On Jun 22, 2019, art85y wrote: Wait a second! That's several items which each merit discussion. Never mind that espionage and such are not civil/jury trial matters. Though the matter could be framed as a copyright violation involving conspiracy to break DRM. To start he's an Australian, not an American citizen. So his peers would be extradited Australian nationals brought to America through years of applied political force to face unspecified charges... Okay Kafka! I can see him now facing a jury of extradited Aborigines who unsympathetically decide to convict on the grounds that he did so little to bring their plight to the larger world. The OJ trial is an exception, with it's circus of ethnic and legal antics which left both public and media bug-eyed and irked. So many wrongs. For the entertainment world Kato Kalin starts the parade of celebrity including the Kardasins and leading to Kaytlin Jenner. Circus of the Stars. Nice proving ground for The Apprentice and West Wing - to bring us where we are today. It's not a distraction from any discussions about rape. Or use of career advancement to bypass the social processes of mutual interest and consent. Or #MeToo where some are accusing others of enabling their careers at the cost of their bodies. Tales of the casting couch which leads us to July's release of a book which purports in include a description of attempted sexual assault by our current President.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
In the OJ case, a cop lied on oath and so he tainted all the evidence he was connected to. One cannot convict on perjury and so OJ beat the wrap. That is no disgrace to the justice system, quite the contrary. The cop, on the other hand, was a disgrace to law enforcement. I love the legal system: it is the only way to beat it. If Assange is going to win he better learn to love thy enemy.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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magicfish Inner circle 7006 Posts |
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On Jun 22, 2019, Jonathan Townsend wrote: I don't think peers have to be of the same nationality. I could be wrong. Not that it matters in this case. |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
It doesn't take a chessmaster to understand: the corrupt authoritarians worldwide are happy to put the people who uncover their crimes in prison.
It will take the continued international outcry and support of those who cherish freedom to release them.
Click here to get Gerald Deutsch's Perverse Magic: The First Sixteen Years
All proceeds to Open Heart Magic charity. |
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Animated Puppets Loyal user Lost on a Green Screen 285 Posts |
So... my choices are only to be Pro-rapist (though no court conviction -- but that... don't matter...) or...
to oppose those who cherish freedom (makin' me a freedom hater -- and therefore a corrupt authoritarian supporter)? Hmmm.... I think we should all get stars on our bellies 'cause this Sylvester McMonkey McBean seems to know a thing or two
I still recall the day I met Beaker from the Muppets. He said to me "Meep, meep, mee mee mee Meep!", and that has made all the difference.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Ah, that wonderful game of false dichotomies and brand identification. It's snitches vs sneers, you can tell by their hats.
This game of quidditch hardly seems to stop when one side catches their golden snitch.
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Mr Salk Special user Tied to 568 Posts |
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On Jun 22, 2019, art85y wrote: The glove didn't fit. We had to acquit.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Greenwald and Brazil, happening in real time:
https://www.france24.com/en/20190613-gre......sh-leaks
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
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On Jun 24, 2019, tommy wrote: Not a funny musical joke there. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/brazil-ja......4eAwZRgf Nostalgia? Property owners feeling threatened? That place has the resources and educated population to become something truly modern and wonderful. I hope that's what they choose.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Julian Assange extradition hearing begins today.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Astonishing day by day coverage of the hearing here: https://twitter.com/wikileaks
Click here to get Gerald Deutsch's Perverse Magic: The First Sixteen Years
All proceeds to Open Heart Magic charity. |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Julian Assange seems to have very little chance of winning; extradition to the USA from England which is more or less a rubber stamp job. However, there have been a few cases where the courts have denied the request, mainly on medical grounds. Where there is a difference of expert opinion, say between psychiatrists, the courts normally take the opinion of the most qualified expert.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Do medical grounds include the torture of the prisoner?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world......076.html
Click here to get Gerald Deutsch's Perverse Magic: The First Sixteen Years
All proceeds to Open Heart Magic charity. |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy |
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magicfish Inner circle 7006 Posts |
If incarceration equals mistreatment, he had better get used to it.
You do the crime, you do the time. I understand Harvey Weinstein's health is deteriorating as well. Poor fella. Maybe we should just keep him on house arrest in a mansion. We wouldnt want him to be inconvenienced by a jail cell like poor ol julian. |
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