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...I am not here to play word games



Most ironic post of the year.
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What exactly if your beef with me?? What word did I change the meaning of that you disagree with?? And in what way does that make "you right and me wrong"??


That I am a "human being" and not an "animal"??

Animals cannot "talk" nor can they "count" ... I can do both. That means I am not an animal.

I don't care what words you use or definitions your dictionary gives you ... I am not an animal and I will not let anyone treat me like I am an animal.

I don't care what your books say. If your books tell you I am an animal, then they are lying to you - I am telling you I am not an animal - I have that ability, an animal does not. Smile

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Wow.

Talking is simply a form of communicating. Animals do that all the time. I have a friend who is unable to talk. Does this mean he is not human? Several primitive tribes may not be able to count, are they not human?

The things you point out are in no way indicative of humanity. Your apparent inability to learn seems odd in a creature as evolved as you claim to be. My dog learns very quickly.
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Animals cannot "talk" nor can they "count".

Incorrect. There is a species of Hominid from the Order Primata of the Class Mammalia that can do just that. They are called Homo Sapiens. Fascinating animals.
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What exactly if your beef with me??

That's a good one!

No sarcasm at all; I mean that sincerely.

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What word did I change the meaning of that you disagree with??

Meat.

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And in what way does that make "you right and me wrong"??

When did anyone say that I'm right and you're wrong?

You're starting to sound paranoid.
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" I have that ability, an animal does not."
It must. You just said it.
  
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Wow.

Talking is simply a form of communicating. Animals do that all the time. I have a friend who is unable to talk. Does this mean he is not human? Several primitive tribes may not be able to count, are they not human?

The things you point out are in no way indicative of humanity. Your apparent inability to learn seems odd in a creature as evolved as you claim to be. My dog learns very quickly.



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What exactly if your beef with me?? What word did I change the meaning of that you disagree with?? And in what way does that make "you right and me wrong"??

That I am a "human being" and not an "animal"??

Animals cannot "talk" nor can they "count" ... I can do both.

Some animals can. Human beings, for example. And other primates can certainly count.

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That means I am not an animal.

No: it means that you have a poor understanding of what it means to be an animal.

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I don't care what words you use or definitions your dictionary gives you.

That's abundantly clear.

That's to your detriment, not mine.

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I am not an animal and I will not let anyone treat me like I am an animal.

How you will let people treat you isn't relevant to this discussion.

Human beings are animals, whether you admit it or not.

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I don't care what your books say.

That's abundantly clear.

That's to your detriment, not mine.

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If your books tell you I am an animal, then they are lying to you.

They're not, but feel free to live in your delusion.

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I am telling you I am not an animal.

I got that.

And I'm telling you that you're wrong, despite your vehement protestations.

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I have that ability, an animal does not.

Unless, of course, that animal is a human being.
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It was a Native American (Little Hawk) that first told me I am a human being and it took me more than twenty-years to figure out what he meant by that.

See this is the problem with the world: people are told they are animals, they believe they are animals, and they end up acting like animals.

Perhaps if they would stop eating animals ... they'd stop acting like animals ... hmmm ...

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It was a Native American (Little Hawk) that first told me I am a human being and it took me more than twenty-years to figure out what he meant by that.

If you figured out that he meant that human beings aren't animals, then you got it wrong.

You keep citing native Americans as if they're infallible.

They're human beings (and, therefore, animals), so they're as fallible as the rest of us.

And, of course, some of us are more fallible than others.
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No: it means that you have a poor understanding of what it means to be an animal.


It means you have a poor understanding of what it means to be a "human being".

It is a Native American concept, the phrase "human being" did not exist in Europe and it's Native American meaning has never been taught to you.

It is about a person being in his "natural state", where he belongs to the Earth and the Earth belongs to him ("we are all one") and he is entitled to food water air shelter etc. That is where the idea of being created equal and having rights to things like life and liberty come from.

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No: it means that you have a poor understanding of what it means to be an animal.

It means you have a poor understanding of what it means to be a "human being".

It doesn't, but I'm tired of all of this.

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It is a Native American concept, the phrase "human being" did not exist in Europe . . . .

Whether the phrase existed in Europe or not doesn't matter. The concept certainly did.

I really feel sorry for you, JoeJoe.
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It was a Native American (Little Hawk) that first told me I am a human being and it took me more than twenty-years to figure out what he meant by that.

See this is the problem with the world: people are told they are animals, they believe they are animals, and they end up acting like animals.

Perhaps if they would stop eating animals ... they'd stop acting like animals ... hmmm ...

-JoeJoe

What's wrong with being an animal? Most Native North Americans I know, including my ancestors, revere animals and would never speak poorly of them the way you do and would never consider them inferior to humans as you do.
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No: it means that you have a poor understanding of what it means to be an animal.


It means you have a poor understanding of what it means to be a "human being".

It is a Native American concept, the phrase "human being" did not exist in Europe and it's Native American meaning has never been taught to you.

It is about a person being in his "natural state", where he belongs to the Earth and the Earth belongs to him ("we are all one") and he is entitled to food water air shelter etc. That is where the idea of being created equal and having rights to things like life and liberty come from.

-JoeJoe

You are sadly mistaken and have horribly misinterpreted anything and everything you ever thought you learned from Native Americans.
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I believe these Native Americans (humans) ate (animal) meat as well... did that make them non-humans?

Curious as to how far down this rabbit hole goes...
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There is no thought to it. He just makes it up as he goes along.
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What's wrong with being an animal? Most Native North Americans I know, including my ancestors, revere animals and would never speak poorly of them the way you do and would never consider them inferior to humans as you do.


Man believes he has dominion over animals, that he can make an animal plow his field and the animal cannot tell him no.

When white man first found black man in Africa, they thought they were animals and took them as slaves. They realized this was a mistake which is why blacks are no longer slaves - they are not animals, they are human beings.

I am not an animal ... I am a human being ... man does not have dominion over me, he cannot make me work ... he has to have my consent.

A part of being a vegan activist is to speak up for those that do not have voices of their own: if a cow could tell you she does not want to give you her milk, she would. She is not an animal, she is a cow being.

A spirit being a cow, a spirit being a human, or a spirit being a tomato. Native Americans believe that when you eat a food, you accept it's spirit into your body and give it consent to alter you. Some spirits don't want to be eaten ... so they make you sick.

Recently, I was at a local farm with a friend and they offered her some fresh eggs. As the lady was collecting the eggs, the chickens were pecking at her and she told my friend "the chicken didn't like me taking her egg" with a slight laugh. The next day, my friend tells me the egg made her stomach feel funny, like she was going to be sick.

And I said "that is because the chicken is mad that you stole her egg".

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I am a human being.

Nobody's disputing that.

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I am not an animal.

The more times you say this, the more times you're wrong.
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You are both wrong. A human being is not an animal and neither is an animal. Different things are not different words but are different numbers in reality. The word human does not even look like a human but if one draws a human then one has something that looks more like it. That is because it is a pattern/number.
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Which Native American tribes were vegan again? I have forgotten.

Asfor being a vegan activist as you self proclaim I think the movement would be better served by your silence.
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