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I'm happy for them. Doesn't mean I want their product.
Of course they're doing well, vegans everywhere are looking for a decent meat substitute. The rest of us will make do with the real thing.


No ... we vegans do not want this product, this is a product for animal-meat eaters. They want to make a plant-based hamburger that tastes better than animal-meat, which is why their products are not in the "vegan" isle but rather in the beef isle of the grocery store.

And from what I see in this video, they can pretty easily figure out how to make plants taste like whatever they want. That is what the animals do, they take "grass" and turn it into "beef" ... so there is no reason a scientist can't do the same thing, and because they are not bound by the static digestive track of a cow, the potential to make it taste better is there.

But we vegans ... we want "whole food", not processed junk food - which is pretty much what any "Whooper" is.

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Unless you can show me that meat sales are down at the same rate that this product's sales are up, then this is being marketed to vegans who desperately wish they could eat meat again!
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Right now it is a fad, give it a few months it will become a trend... or be pushed into the background menu.
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On Jun 22, 2019, magicfish wrote:
"that tastes better than beef"

Even better than beef? Are you implying that beef tastes good? I thought it was vile rotting death? Surely they don't need to put in an effort to achieve this. Wouldnt a scoop of old composted corn husks be sufficient?


Yes, it does taste good ... I used to eat at McDonalds three times a day, breakfast lunch and dinner. The poison has to taste good or people wouldn't eat it.

But just because something tastes good does not make it good; animals die drinking anti-freeze because it tastes really sweet and good.

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Unless you can show me that meat sales are down at the same rate that this product's sales are up, then this is being marketed to vegans who desperately wish they could eat meat again!


I don't have to do all that ... here it is straight from the horse's mouth: "Burger King's research indicated that 9 percent of people buying plant-based meat are vegetarian, but 90 percent are meat eaters looking for healthier options".

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/health/P......601.html

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You ate McDonalds 3 times a day. And having this diet to use as your control group you then go on to guess that the problem with your health was the meat. The meat McDonalds uses for their food. That is representative of all meat.

That is the equivalent of me saying all vegans must be idiots because I found a really idiotic one.

I have to admit you are the most unintentionally hilarious person I have ever come across.

My friend Bob Sheets is a vegan. When asked why he says "at first it was for health reasons, then philosophical reasons, now I just like to make people mad".

Best part is I don't try to make him eat meat and he doesn't try to turn me vegan. Ya know a respect thing.
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I haven't tried to make anyone do anything here. If you don't want to hear what I have to say, nobody is making you read my posts.

The problems with my health have nothing to do with meat ... they have to do with growth hormones, steroids, antibiotics; nor are they limited to animal products: they also include chemicals fertilizers, weed killers, and preservatives.

It is my belief that virtually all food in the stores are poisoned and unfit for human consumption (and that includes the Impossible Whooper). That is why I grow my own food. Smile

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If only you would restrict your "belief" to those things based in fact you would seem much more intelligent.

But not every family is unemployed enough to grow their own food.

Also you call yourself an activist and you darn sure ARE tying to convert people. You babble about planting seeds that will grow in people. Don't now pretend you are not trying to convert people. You do know this stuff stays up online right and people can just refer to it?
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I haven't tried to make anyone do anything here.


There is a very long thread that you started HERE that you seem to contradict... you.
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But that's OK - it's harmless and non-addictive.
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Also you call yourself an activist and you darn sure ARE tying to convert people.


I'm not converting anyone ... I am educating them. If you knew what I knew, you wouldn't eat what you eat.

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There is a very long thread that you started HERE that you seem to contradict... you.


I said I "can" prove it, I didn't say I am going to nor did I say I am going to make anyone believe me.

You want me to prove it?? Then you would need to eat my food in order for me to do so ... and I know I can, because I have proved it to people that have ate my food.

It is usually after people get bad news from their doctor that they come to me ... a lady I know came to me after a doctor visit and asked "what was that you were saying about diet again??". It was a sad conversation because she realized if she had listened to me years ago she wouldn't have got that bad news from the doctor.

If anyone here is seeing a doctor for whatever reason, feel free to PM me and tell me the problem and I'll give you my thoughts, no charge no obligation. I want my friends to be healthy. Smile

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Every meat eater wants to be a vegan and I can prove it to you.


As state before... words have meaning.

Anyway... we're just going around and around in circles...
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Oh yea eating your way nobody would ever get bad news from a doctor. Do you really believe your delusions?
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Every meat eater wants to be a vegan and I can prove it to you.


As state before... words have meaning.


You are using this definition: have a desire to possess or do something.

The word "want" can also be defined as: ought, should, or need to do something ("you want to be more careful"). Would everyone SHOULD be vegan be better?? Or everyone NEEDS to be vegan work for you??

It can also mean "To have an inclination toward", so while someone may want to eat animals, they can also want to be a vegan (Tommy's post: "double think").

Definition six from the "free dictionary": to be without, lack. That is a good one, because there very much is a lack of vegan food available, everyone should at the very least want the option to be available, who in their right mind would want to limit their options??

Another definition of "want": To be in need of; require (your hair wants cutting said the Hatter) ... I wonder how many barbers have been chewed out because they used the word "want"??

Dictionary dot com has it meaning "to be deficient by the absence of some part or thing" ... no doubt you are deficient in vegan options, a huge part of the problem is you can't be vegan because there are not enough options, and who in their right mind would want to do something they know they can't do?? If you lived in a vegan culture your desire to eat meat would also be limited by your options - few people here really choose their diet, we ate what they fed us as we grew up, your parents decided what you wanted.

Merriam Webster has a definition not included in the other dictionaries: to hunt or seek in order to apprehend (wanted for murder) ... you'd think that would be in all of the dictionaries?? Amazing that even the dictanies don't agree on what words mean. Our languages have been confounded you know?? Smile



So ... you have anything to contribute to the conversation, or do we just want to continue questioning my English skills??

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Get some English skills so we can discuss them.
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Whooper is whopper in English meaning big.
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Every meat eater wants to be a vegan and I can prove it to you.


As state before... words have meaning.


You are using this definition: have a desire to possess or do something.

The word "want" can also be defined as: ought, should, or need to do something ("you want to be more careful"). Would everyone SHOULD be vegan be better?? Or everyone NEEDS to be vegan work for you??

It can also mean "To have an inclination toward", so while someone may want to eat animals, they can also want to be a vegan (Tommy's post: "double think").

Definition six from the "free dictionary": to be without, lack. That is a good one, because there very much is a lack of vegan food available, everyone should at the very least want the option to be available, who in their right mind would want to limit their options??

Another definition of "want": To be in need of; require (your hair wants cutting said the Hatter) ... I wonder how many barbers have been chewed out because they used the word "want"??

Dictionary dot com has it meaning "to be deficient by the absence of some part or thing" ... no doubt you are deficient in vegan options, a huge part of the problem is you can't be vegan because there are not enough options, and who in their right mind would want to do something they know they can't do?? If you lived in a vegan culture your desire to eat meat would also be limited by your options - few people here really choose their diet, we ate what they fed us as we grew up, your parents decided what you wanted.

Merriam Webster has a definition not included in the other dictionaries: to hunt or seek in order to apprehend (wanted for murder) ... you'd think that would be in all of the dictionaries?? Amazing that even the dictanies don't agree on what words mean. Our languages have been confounded you know?? Smile



So ... you have anything to contribute to the conversation, or do we just want to continue questioning my English skills??

-JoeJoe


Actually none of these definitions work either. Want to keep going to prove what ridiculous lengths you will go to just to avoid being wrong in your own delusion? Dude you are hilarious!
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On Jun 23, 2019, tommy wrote:
Whooper is whopper in English meaning big.

I believe that he's talking about a cough.

Or a crane.

But it could, of course, be a swan.
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