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sirbrad
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Houdini was a magician long before being an escape artist. How do you think he got the name "King of Cards?" Like I said, he is still fooling people to this day.
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He wasn't that good at actual magic, and he did everything he could to hurt other magicians.


The truth is that Houdini was an extremely complex individual and very obsessed about protecting his name and reputation.

My understanding is that he was actually quite good at magic, but that many other magicians who were jealous would say disparaging things to damage his reputation. Ironically, Houdini was not above damaging the reputations of other magicians and escape artists who crossed him. He could also be quite generous and helpful to others that respected him and his act by asking for permission to perform something that was in his show.

Perhaps the greatest example of Houdini's wrath was his "exposure" book on Robert-Houdin.

Personally, I consider "The Secret Life of Harry Houdini" a must read.

As for my vote for greatest magician, I would have to say Houdini for escapes, Doug Henning for stage, and Michael Ammar for close-up. In mentalism, it would be a toss-up between Kreskin and Darren Brown.
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Well, could you imagine...just imagine...if Uri Geller made a video to be released on his death. And this video said: "I am a magician, and I fooled the world for a lifetime..." Would that make HIM the greatest magician of all time? Bigger than Houdini?

I rather think so.

Just surmising, folks!

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Dead = Cardini, Vernon, and/or Houdini
Alive = McBride and/or Burton
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I truly don't believe there is a "Best Magician Ever". Many could be considered the best, but there isn't one who puts all others to shame in all categories of magic.
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Does no one remember Doug Henning?
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On 2007-08-24 22:07, Drewmcadam wrote:
Well, could you imagine...just imagine...if Uri Geller made a video to be released on his death. And this video said: "I am a magician, and I fooled the world for a lifetime..." Would that make HIM the greatest magician of all time? Bigger than Houdini?

I rather think so.

Just surmising, folks!

Drew


Drew, do you know more than you're saying ? Smile Just kidding, mate. But IF, IF Uri would ever consider doing such a thing, it would be marvelous to see him in the international spotlight once more before he outs himself. People over here have not the faintest idea who he is nowadays (perhaps because I live in a silly country) and I'd love to see a revival of all this.
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Going to sound common, and very typical, but Criss Angel.
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I really enjoy Michael Ammar. Does anyone think he could be the Dai Vernon of magic someday?
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John Hammon or the one and only person to fool houdini, the Professor.
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On 2004-06-02 21:42, TheHungryMagician wrote:

Best Magicians At:

Publicity :
Skill :
Influence on the magic community :
Influence on the lay community :
Presentation :
Creating Effects :
Teaching others :
Your personal favorite :

Publicity : Criss Angel
Skill : Dai Vernon
Influence on the magic community : Jay Sankey
Influence on the lay community : Criss Angel
Presentation : Jeff McBride
Creating Effects : Jay Sankey
Teaching others : Jay Sankey
Your personal favorite : David Copperfield
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On 2004-06-02 21:42, TheHungryMagician wrote:

Best Magicians At:

Publicity :
Skill :
Influence on the magic community :
Influence on the lay community :
Presentation :
Creating Effects :
Teaching others :
Your personal favorite :

Publicity : Criss Angel
Skill : Dai Vernon
Influence on the magic community : Jay Sankey
Influence on the lay community : Criss Angel
Presentation : Jeff McBride
Creating Effects : Jay Sankey
Teaching others : Jay Sankey
Your personal favorite : David Copperfield


I completely agree with you.
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Ublicity : David Blaine
Skill : Dai Vernon and Daryl
Influence on the magic community : Vernon and Daryl
Influence on the lay community : Blaine
Presentation : Vernon and Daryl
Creating Effects : Jay Sankey, Daryl and richard Osterlind
Teaching others : Daryl
Your personal favorite : Vernon
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On 2004-05-23 00:06, Thinker wrote:
In my opinion, Cooperfiel,Daryl,Mcbride, and Ammar.
But I cant't forget Bill Malone, this guy is a great magician and really funny.


who is Cooperfield? I hope you were refering to Copperfield
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Does no one remember Doug Henning?


Starry, apparently you missed my previous post.

Publicity : Houdini
Skill : Daryl and Brandon Williams
Influence on the magic community : Ammar
Influence on the lay community : Criss Angel
Presentation : undecided
Creating Effects : Jay Sankey, Justin Miller
Teaching others : Daryl
Your personal favorite : Houdini

I know many will argue about my choice of Houdini for peronal favorite or publicity, but he was an incredible self-promoter and showman or he wouldn't be remembered today.

What makes him my favorite is that I have an incredible respect for the man's drive and tenacity. He led a life most of us can only dream of. He made things happen rather than waiting for things (or life) to happen to him and tried to live to his fullest potential.
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On 2007-09-09 12:40, clynim wrote:
I know many will argue about my choice of Houdini for peronal favorite or publicity, but he was an incredible self-promoter and showman or he wouldn't be remembered today.


Nah, I was definitely thinking Houdini for that one. The only reason I chose Criss Angel is because he has one thing Houdini never had -- television. Most people just never got to see Houdini because all his performances could only be done live.
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For pure theater, Jeff McBride, for pure wonder, Doug Henning. Skill female Suzy Wandas. Manipulative skill, Cardini/ Vernon. Spectator management and amazing magic, John Calvert. MC work, Jay Marshall and Aldo COlombini.
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I can think of a few more categories to add:

Card handling: Ricky Jay
Mentalism: Derren Brown
Theatrics: David Copperfield
Escapes: Well, I suppose this one is obvious...
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I have to add a performer to my short list I entered earlier...'Salvano'[an amazing performer].If you can get hold of a video put out by Stevens...sit back and be a witness to magical enchantment.

Also discussed here.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......start=30

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