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Looks like they’ve taken down the Vimeo performance video at the link above.
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On May 16, 2019, MaxfieldsMagic wrote:
Looks like they’ve taken down the Vimeo performance video at the link above.


They've re-edited it so that the move now takes place off-camera. Not a great solution either. ***ed if you do...

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On May 16, 2019, MaxfieldsMagic wrote:
Looks like they've taken down the Vimeo performance video at the link above.


They've re-edited it so that the move now takes place off-camera. Not a great solution either. ***ed if you do...

Evan

Wow. When I wrote to WD via his website, the answer I got for why there was no demo was because it was so secret, as though some new breakthrough in deck switches was on the horizon. Then they release a demo that's a total letdown (years of development to come up with a much less appealing version of the Cooler?). And now they cut out the really clumsy and obvious switch? Youch.
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Wayne Dobson always guaranteed clever thinking and quality. This looks a little....err...different. Smile
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On May 16, 2019, MaxfieldsMagic wrote:
Looks like they've taken down the Vimeo performance video at the link above.


They've re-edited it so that the move now takes place off-camera. Not a great solution either. ***ed if you do...

Evan

Wow. When I wrote to WD via his website, the answer I got for why there was no demo was because it was so secret, as though some new breakthrough in deck switches was on the horizon. Then they release a demo that's a total letdown (years of development to come up with a much less appealing version of the Cooler?). And now they cut out the really clumsy and obvious switch? Youch.


In fairness, creating a video demo of a utility like this is an impossible task. The switch relies on misdirection, which is fine, but you can't misdirect the camera. So they have a difficult choice between complete exposure and deceptive editing. I'm sure that, in performance, the switch works fine. But still, there are certainly better, cleaner, more organic methods.

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I normally love Wayne's releases. This is aweful. The routine and demo shown on Vimeo is lacking any thought. "Cards isolated in box"...then taken out again to be shuffled. Bad! The switch itself is dreadful. And there is no reason for a plastic black box. I suggest Shawn Fahquar pocket switch or Cold case or even better the deck shell.


Colin, you are so in tune with the *simpicity* of Dobson's Black Box that it's certainly "aweful" as you say - by the by, aweful is the obsolete spelling of "awful". Pointing the finger & you ended up misspelling "awful". Categories: English non-lemma forms. English misspellings. Anyone can make a mistake, but are you going to take their *word* for it? Chears!
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When the camera needlessly turned to show the spectator’s selection, I literally laughed out loud.
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I get that this is not a magician fooler and, yes it it a little overpriced but some of the adjectives being applied to the box are a tad ott, 'weird' and 'unnatural' being two examples.
What's odd about the presence of a fairly unobtrusuve box on a magician's table?
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I get that this is not a magician fooler and, yes it it a little overpriced but some of the adjectives being applied to the box are a tad ott, 'weird' and 'unnatural' being two examples.
What's odd about the presence of a fairly unobtrusuve box on a magician's table?


Ok How many magicians have you seen in the last 20 years approach table with a plastic Box

NONE ?

Fact is he has spent time working on a solution to a problem that does not exit

If you need a switching Device already there is Cold Case by Greg Wilson that does the Job and its Lower cost
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Ok, you don't like it and I am far from being its advocate, but, isn't it the case that very often a stage or TV magician will not be standing there introducing himself with prop/s in hand, but approach a table with the props already in place upon it? (eg Paul Daniels)

My point is to offer genuine criticisms and not lapse into fanciful adjectives, it's a bloody box, nothing weird or unnatural about it.
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On Jun 14, 2019, art85y wrote:
Ok, you don't like it and I am far from being its advocate, but, isn't it the case that very often a stage or TV magician will not be standing there introducing himself with prop/s in hand, but approach a table with the props already in place upon it? (eg Paul Daniels)

My point is to offer genuine criticisms and not lapse into fanciful adjectives, it's a bloody box, nothing weird or unnatural about it.


Well, as I am not opposed to using any type of props or how they look because magic, for me, is fun and can be accomplished using an array of items. Though, I must say that I have reservations introducing a black box that is holding my deck of cards. Not sure why but I do. Just my opinion of course...
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Thanks RNK, balanced and objective comments.
I can imagine this effect with a suitable tarot deck [and a suitable box Smile] in which all the unchosen cards turn into The Devil. This might be a nice project for Gemini or Lebanon Circle.
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