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Apple has to approve updates for iOS apps. That's out of our hands, and can be frustratingly slow to happen. Will has been pushing updates as quickly as he solves the problems, but we can't do anything to make Apple stop dragging their feet.
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Android just gets copied and hacked so iOS will always have more security and better apps an updates long term imho . Itís always been the same and you can see why with so many different Android styles and pirating being so rife why most creators stick with iOS in the long game .
Best wishes Gaz 🙂
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Android just gets copied and hacked so iOS will always have more security and better apps an updates long term imho . Itís always been the same and you can see why with so many different Android styles and pirating being so rife why most creators stick with iOS in the long game .
Best wishes Gaz 🙂



And this is exactly why Iím an Apple user. Better security imo.
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Android. The Betamax of Cell Phone Operating systems.
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Me too ( surprise I know ) , but I would never have an Android phone and even more so as a magician Gaz 🙂
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Here is my review for the Device for Console. I will also be making a few comments on the iOS version of the app. ( which may not sit well with a few people )


Iíll begin by saying that I am 100% satisfied with the console device itself. And I believe it to be one of the greatest purchases I have ever made when it comes to magic.
I was definitely a little worried after reading some of the other members concerns. So I immediately wanted to test it out. Before I revived my device I spent a good amount of time practicing and memorizing the orientation of each button. I felt that if I was going to use it, I might as well become as familiar with it as I possibly could. ( somewhere around 10-15 hours of practice time )
When I received the device, it looked exactly Like others explained. I immediately jump into action with the app and tested it out. MAN.......It is impressive. Almost as exciting as when I first watched the demo video. The device allows you to have access to all the effects in the app. ( but I figured out a way to use all the effects without the device while I was waiting for my unit to be shipped to me)
I tested each effect out using the device just to make sure that they worked as advertised. ( Iíll come back to this specific area later. Not good for iOS users 😩 )
After playing with each routine I decided to after the more complicated things that the device can be used for. Such as pairing it with spectators phones.
This variation of the device is by far my favorite. It is extremely versatile, and Iíve had NO issues pairing with any phone Iíve tried to pair it to.
The one concern that I had about the pairing was the length of time it would take to pair to someone elseís phone. It was something I wanted to test out immediately. What Iíve been able to conclude, is that it takes almost no time at all to pair. Itís sooooo fast. FLASH like fast. So that was absolutely a bonus for me.

The tutorial does not cover any effects or routines that have you using someone elseís phone. I was a little disappointed. But feel that Iím creative enough to come up with my own ideas. Technically, this is the real reason I bought the device for. However, it is mentioned in the tutorial that you can do effects involving a spectators phone but never goes into details of how or what to do. Being that I became familiar with the way the device worked before I got it, I had already been working on a routine that is definitely outside of the box thinking. And after performing it twice, realized that I have a keeper on my hands. ( Iím probably going to be selfish and not share this idea. Sorry guys, too me, itís that good )
I think when Mark creates this tool he knew that he had something special. Which is why he shared it with ellusionist. As for the buttons having this rubber coating. I can see where some may have difficulties with the two buttons closest to the unit. But practice, Practice, Practice. I struggled in the beginning with certain letters and numbers when it comes to the two buttons Iíve been referring too. After a while I figured out how to be more accurate with them. Now Iím able to get to what I need them to get to. No problems.
The heat shrink wrap around the unit covers a little over half of it. I find this to be easier for me to use the device with it on the unit. Again, no problems for me. As for the other side thatís not covered. At first I was nervous. It have the feeling that a hook c*in gives you. So I thought it was going to snag everything that it came into contact with. Such as the inside of my pockets. Or the inside of my hoodie pockets. And also my skin. But after handling the device for a few hours I managed to get around any of those potential issues. And I no longer experience the snagging.

Mark has some pretty good customer care service. Heís responded to everything I emailed him about. And we are currently in the works for reprogramming my unit to fit my specific needs. Which is such a blessing to be able to have those type of options.
So when it comes to the console device itself, I have ď0Ē complaints about it. And I believe Mark has and will go above and beyond for his customers to be satisfied.

Unfortunately, I cannot say the same thing when It comes to the way the app has been handled. Which has absolutely nothing to do with Mark Lemon.

Now comes the bad news from my experiences with the app and the way customer support has handled the issues Iíve stated in my previous review and my current/new problems that were discovered.
Sadly enough, Iím going to have to take back what Iíve said about the app in my review on that product. So I apologize to those that have read my review. And I also apologize to Ellusionist because I know that somethings are out of their hands when it comes to certain areas of the app. But I want to be as honest and transparent as possible. I feel I would be doing our community a very big disservice if I were to hide these days hinge from customers.

From what I can see, the Android version is very successful. Makes me jealous at times.
But the iOS version is heartbreaking. It has so much potential. Itís almost like itís going backwards at times. In my previous review for the app I discussed some problems that needed to be addressed. Some things were. And then some things werenít. So after I revived my device, I played around with the app using the device. Everything seemed to work perfectly. Which made feel excited about the product. I decided to perform the lotto effect using the device. To actual strangers. Not family or friends. This is the ultimate test imo. What I didnít know about the app being used with the device, was that it wouldnít work. At all.

So during my performance I went thought the routine ( which Iíve spent hours on rehearsing ) only to find out that the picture wasnít in my camera roll. Of course, I was rather embarrassed that it didnít turn out the way I was hoping. Thankfully Iím the type of performer that likes to have an out for just about everything I do. Which allowed me to cover the mishap that just took place. After my gig was over I went home to see if It was me that had made the mistake. Thatís when I discovered that there was an even bigger issue the product. I was able to replicate the problem, every time. Showing that it wasnít myself or my performance skills. This made me furious. So I posted a video and a lengthy comment expressing my concerns with the product. Not only has no one with E. bothered to comment, but no one has even attempted to contact me to apologize for a malfunction with their product. ( I know, I shouldnít expect an apology from anyone. But if that was my product, I would make sure that I contacted the person to let them know that Iím at the least trying to figure the issue out )

The issue with the iOS version when combined with the device is a MUST fix. Without it being fixed, I donít see how anyone can use them together. The fake black screen will automatically disappear, leaving you at your home screen. All on its own. And even the fake black screen itself has issues. Thereís this rather large white line at the bottom of it. Meaning that if you leave your phone in play, someone will without a doubt see it. Exposing that thereís something fishy going on. I can literally continue on and on about other issues that are currently unattended to. Such as the time/clock in the options menu.
I am not happy with the way that my situation has been delt with at all. And since my concerns seem to be unimportant, I will be asking for a refund for the app. And I would also go as far as to recommend to anyone who has the iOS version plus the device, to request a refund as well. It makes absolutely no sense to pay for a product that you canít use at all.


What Iím getting out of each update is that after fixing one problem, itís creating another .


Again, this is solely for the iOS users who also have the console device. And if for some reason, anyone would like to see proof about these problems. Iíd also recommend going to console Facebook page. Where you can see for yourself that there are in fact these issues.

It is a real shame that it turned out to be this way. This product has so much potential, itís crazy. And now, itís become very obvious that there was very little testing done with the app. It was released way too soon. Iím guessing about 9 months too soon.

Well, after all this writing Iíve done on this product, I can say that I cannot recommend the console app at this time. But I will say this. As for the device itself, one of the best purchases Iíve ever made. And plan on using it in ways that no one has thought of. At least that Iíve heard about.



Console app Android version 9-10

Console app iOS version 6--10

Console app IOS version + Console Device 0-10

Console Device 10-10



Thanks for reading. And I hope this helps anyone interested in the product on making a better decision on purchasing it.

I am sorry that I was unable to give this the highest rating Ellusionist. Because thatís what I wanted to do. 😔
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Here is my review for the Device for Console.----
----I am sorry that I was unable to give this the highest rating Ellusionist. Because thatís what I wanted to do. 😔

Thanks Lonnie!
Sorry to hear of your, or should I say Ellusionist's problems as well!

I ordered the Console Remote device directly from Mark the other day so I will come back here and report when it arrives.

Well, I am an Android user so hopeful there are lesser problems coming up.
So far, just using the phone's keyboard and testing the settings, I have no complains. The Lotto Selfie works perfect when using the calculator force method, all numbers, dates on the camera roll/gallery and placing of the pictures etc. are perfect.

But I am using Android, and even if two members had quite harsh comments on this system, sorry guys, this great app WORKS in this "Betamax of Cell Phone Operating System"! Smile

Sorry, couldn't resist, don't get mad, just an old guy kidding.

But, who knows, I might be sorry too.. Smile
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On Jun 19, 2019, Lonnie_Lyerla wrote:
Here is my review for the Device for Console.----
----I am sorry that I was unable to give this the highest rating Ellusionist. Because thatís what I wanted to do. 😔

Thanks Lonnie!
Sorry to hear of your, or should I say Ellusionist's problems as well!

I ordered the Console Remote device directly from Mark the other day so I will come back here and report when it arrives.

Well, I am an Android user so hopeful there are lesser problems coming up.
So far, just using the phone's keyboard and testing the settings, I have no complains. The Lotto Selfie works perfect when using the calculator force method, all numbers, dates on the camera roll/gallery and placing of the pictures etc. are perfect.

But I am using Android, and even if two members had quite harsh comments on this system, sorry guys, this great app WORKS in this "Betamax of Cell Phone Operating System"! Smile

Sorry, couldn't resist, don't get mad, just an old guy kidding.

But, who knows, I might be sorry too.. Smile



Thatís great news to be honest. I believe this is the result that Geraint and E. were shooting for. It does suck that I canít use it. But that doesnít mean I donít want others to be able too. When you do get your Device, please let me know if you have success with the lotto effect. Iím keeping my fingers crossed that you donít have any issues.

I like your humor lol
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I thought the lotto effect was to be used in conjunction with the fake calc app as the input method?
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I thought the lotto effect was to be used in conjunction with the fake calc app as the input method?


It is. But when you use the device with the lotto effect, that option isn't available
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I assumed the lottery effect was a bonus effect on the app for those who couldnít afford, or didnít want to use the console device. That was my understanding. Have you tried using the calc input method?
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The lottery effect is the only effect that can be performed if you only purchase the app and not the device. The other four effects are the bonus when you buy the device. The calculator method works from what I can see. The iOS version needs some maintenance imo. If you can get past the date June 14 2017 on the American version, then using the calculator method will do the job. And youíll still get great reactions.
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IIRC the console device is for inputting 4 figures only, so therefore would not be used for the lottery effect?
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Itís suppose to be used with the lottery effect. Actually all the effects. But for some reason when using the device for the lottery effect, the image does not show up in the camera roll. It looks like it boots the user from the app. Of course, this is for the iOS users. I have no idea how well it works for the android users.
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You can use all 5 effects in the Console APP without the Console Remote if you have a secret assistant using your phone's keyboard. But you need a printer and get hold of the pictures from your pocket or elsewere secretly.

And it is the app that limits you to use only four letters or digits in some effects. The remote can send as many letters or digits as you like. It is just a mini Bluetooth remote keyboard. You can for inst. send anything, long or short to your phones "Note Pad". Even to a Google search box etc. etc
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You can use all 5 effects in the Console APP without the Console Remote if you have a secret assistant using your phone's keyboard. But you need a printer and get hold of the pictures from your pocket or elsewere secretly.

And it is the app that limits you to use only four letters or digits in some effects. The remote can send as many letters or digits as you like. It is just a mini Bluetooth remote keyboard. You can for inst. send anything, long or short to your phones "Note Pad". Even to a Google search box etc. etc




Thereís also another way to use all 5 effects without an assistant or device.
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There's also another way to use all 5 effects without an assistant or device.

Is there an option in the IOS settings saying something like: "Use (the phone's) keyboard"?
This option exist in the Android version.

(Unfortunately there is no sound in the instruction video during the explanation of this regarding the Lotto effect. But if you look carefully what Mark is doing, you get the idea though.)

So, if you use this keyboard input method you could, with a little boldness pretend to search for your "lost" photo, while you really type in the word/numbers, and during this actions, you say something like:
- Hm! Where is that photo!? Ah, here! No, strange! Ah, here it is! Look! Same word! Same time on my alarm clock!"
Tadaa!

Not a great way to do it, but it works!

Something like that, Lonnie? Smile
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Regarding the sound - redownload it. We fixed that.
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Regarding the sound - redownload it. We fixed that.

Used the Android version. Global settings - Instructions - 3 Lottery Selfie Routine 09:34
Still no sound 4:41 - 6:01.
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There's also another way to use all 5 effects without an assistant or device.

Is there an option in the IOS settings saying something like: "Use (the phone's) keyboard"?
This option exist in the Android version.

(Unfortunately there is no sound in the instruction video during the explanation of this regarding the Lotto effect. But if you look carefully what Mark is doing, you get the idea though.)

So, if you use this keyboard input method you could, with a little boldness pretend to search for your "lost" photo, while you really type in the word/numbers, and during this actions, you say something like:
- Hm! Where is that photo!? Ah, here! No, strange! Ah, here it is! Look! Same word! Same time on my alarm clock!"
Tadaa!

Not a great way to do it, but it works!

Something like that, Lonnie? Smile


Thanks for the idea. I have come to this conclusion myself. I wonít discuss the other way to use all the effects on this thread but I can in a pm. Itís been some time and I still havenít revived a notice or response to the issue I had. It may be best for me to just get a refund and see if this changes in the future. Thank you for the response.
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