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Hey all, I just released a new download - HERE: https://www.ellusionist.com/oil-and-wate......rke.html

But I wrote my honest thoughts instead of standard sales copy. (below)



A MESSAGE FROM GERAINT CLARKE ....

I’m lucky enough to travel the world with Ellusionist and see more magic than most.
Every magician that meets me wants the top shelf liquor, they want to be fooled.
They don’t want to see something they’ve seen before. They expect me to have something new in my back pocket that will blow them away. An exclusive.
This is one that I’ve been using to **** magicians up at conventions & lectures all over the world… for years.

BUT FIRST, YOU NEED TO READ THIS
Imagine I asked you to buy a strawberry ice-cream from me… moments after telling you it was the worst flavour. That’s what’s going to happen TODAY. But instead of ice-cream, it’s a card trick.
I’m not going to try and ’sell’ you something. Instead I’m going to tell you something and my hope is, at the end, you’ll still want to buy it.

Good magic is when your spectator's expectations and the reality of what just happened are misaligned. If they expect it to happen and it happens, you’ll get a golf clap.
However, if they expect a good trick and you show them a great trick, the magic hits harder.

SO WHAT’S THE WORST PLOT IN MAGIC?
Using that rule, the worst plots in magic are ACAAN and Oil & Water. In ACAAN, they name a card and number and you ask them to count down. By the time they get a few cards down, they already expect their card to be at the position that they named. So their expectations and the reality of the effect align. It’s not a good trick.“BLASPHEMY. BURN HIM”

Hear me out. Now imagine that deck was blank and the ONLY card in the entire deck is the card they named and it’s at the position they named. Now that’s a great trick. They expected it to be in the position they named and it is. Okay… But you flip over the cards and their free choice is the only card that exists. Their tiny mind is BLOWN. The reality exceeds their expectations.
BUT THIS IS ABOUT OIL & WATER - PERHAPS THE MOST TERRIBLE PLOT IN MAGIC
The cards mix. They separate. They mix again. They separate again. They mix again. They separate again.Now to finish, the deck separates too.
After the first phase, your audience now expects it to happen. So every subsequent phase is on a level plane. Their expectations and reality are aligned.

“HOW DO YOU FIX IT?”
My approach to creating my version was simple.
1: It needs to be impromptu.
2: No extra cards.
3: I should be able to borrow a deck if the moment calls for it.
4: It needs to have 2 potential methods for each phase, so I can repeat it with the same audience watching and still not get caught.
5: At least one of those two methods needs to be VERY easy to do, so I can teach my younger fan base, or attendees in my lectures can do it right away.
6: It must get more impressive each phase.
7: The final phase has to kick them in the teeth outta nowhere (not literally).
8: The story or presentation should make sense.
9: The magic absolutely must happen in the spectator’s hands.

Thus, “The one where the cards mix and unmix, the same happens again but then they vanish” by Geraint Clarke was born.
In the first phase they’re mixed fairly, face-down and unmix themselves.
In the second phase the magic happens face-up in the spectators hands, with everything looking so fair. (This is achieved with a crazy sleight you’ve never seen before).
The third phase, the ‘water’ cards vanish from the intense heat of a flame from a lighter (or a pretend one - we’re magicians after all). It escalates in impressiveness towards a finale they could never expect.

Taste is subjective, but for me, it’s made the oil & water plot fun again.
Those who know me by now know that I NEVER EVER EVER release magic to the industry, or put my name behind something unless I’ve fully worked and developed it over years.
I don’t produce Instagram magic or intensely gimmicked visuals. I produce magic that can be done any time, anywhere and pack the same punch whether the audience does magic or not.
So you can trust me when I tell you that I’ve seen enough bad tricks in my life to know what makes a good one… and my reputation of best-sellers at Ellusionist means more to me than a quick buck.
I’m not paid to create magic here. I publish only when I feel I can add real value to the community (or when you incredible magicians I meet boost my self-esteem on an original effect).
This trick isn’t the best one you could ever do, but it’s the best strawberry ice-cream that I can offer you. The best rendition of the worst flavour.

FREE with a magicstream.com membership - or download the secret at Ellusionist for $9.

- Geraint Clarke @ellusionist
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Congratulations! This may be the best title for a card trick that I can remember!

FYI:

This same* effect with the same climax (and even using the lighter) is published in Jose Carroll’s 52 Lovers, Vol 2 (with most probably a different method).

* it’s not “exactly” the same

(I bet $100 that all the Ellusionist team together doesn’t know who Pepe Carroll is)
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Alright this looks awesome and also has the best name ever. I'm a sucker for impromptu tricks as well
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On Jun 14, 2019, Maxyedid wrote:
Congratulations! This may be the best title for a card trick that I can remember!

FYI:

This same* effect with the same climax (and even using the lighter) is published in Jose Carroll’s 52 Lovers, Vol 2 (with most probably a different method).

* it’s not “exactly” the same

(I bet $100 that all the Ellusionist team together doesn’t know who Pepe Carroll is)


I won't take that bet. As it'll cost me $100.... I've used conjuring archive and it looks like that was published in 1991. (but using a different method and wine glass).... However, I'll happily update the credits with this new discovery.

We all stand on the shoulders of giants.

I'm glad people love the name. It was definitely a gamble calling it this.


- G
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Ooooooooo, what a clever (and logical!) twist ending for O&W. Nice one, Geraint.

Was just going to ask if the vanish ending has been published by anyone else previously (I’ve never seen it) but I guess Maxyedid covered that above.
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The Pepe Caroll that's frequently referenced by Juan Tamariz? Spanish magician? Did a gambling routine that frequently broke the fourth wall with Tamariz? Sorry, that's a bet you'll lose.
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Looks amazing!
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Great thinking.

Interested.
Please check regularly if you are becoming the type of magician Jerry Seinfeld jokes about. (This applies to mentalists as well.)
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I believe so, yes.
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This is Michael webers red/black routine. Shame on Ellusionist for releasing this. So sick of magicians stealing!
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Is it correct that the d***h happens when you go to your p****t for the lighter?

It looks like that moment was edited out of the demo/advertisement
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Geraint, please comment in the Console thread addressing the build quality issues people are having. Thanks
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This is Michael webers red/black routine. Shame on Ellusionist for releasing this. So sick of magicians stealing!


Huh? Wasn’t Weber’s Red/Black a version of Paul Curry’s OOTW...? What does that have to do with O&W?
Am I missing something?
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On Jun 14, 2019, strollingmagician wrote:
This is Michael webers red/black routine. Shame on Ellusionist for releasing this. So sick of magicians stealing!


Huh? Wasn’t Weber’s Red/Black a version of Paul Curry’s OOTW...? What does that have to do with O&W?
Am I missing something?


https://www.conjuringarchive.com/list/book/605
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On Jun 14, 2019, strollingmagician wrote:
This is Michael webers red/black routine. Shame on Ellusionist for releasing this. So sick of magicians stealing!


The method to this / presentation to this has nothing to do with Red/Black 2.0 by Michael Weber.
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On Jun 15, 2019, pegasus wrote:
Quote:
On Jun 15, 2019, scott0819 wrote:
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On Jun 14, 2019, strollingmagician wrote:
This is Michael webers red/black routine. Shame on Ellusionist for releasing this. So sick of magicians stealing!


Huh? Wasn’t Weber’s Red/Black a version of Paul Curry’s OOTW...? What does that have to do with O&W?
Am I missing something?


https://www.conjuringarchive.com/list/book/605




You are correct. Weber's Red/Black 2.0 is a version of Paul Curry's OOTW. Great trick too.
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Geraint I thought you wrote that those tweets by Michael Weber referred to you and “your” trick?

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On Jun 14, 2019, Michael Weber wrote:

P.S.

The other thing you ripped off from me (remember when you asked permission, I said "no" and you did it anyway?)

The original thing you stole is 100,000 times better than all the other stuff you've been selling.

P.S. Continued:

You're like a dumb animal that chews up other people's valuables, then craps them out and thinks you created something.

Good boy.

Well done.
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So what would be the effect that is 100.000 times better? Just to know
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Mantel, seems like you should ask those questions to Weber?

From my perspective, I'm not a fan of supporting rip-offs - but also there's a lot of grey in the middle. Are we talking about a plot, a move, a line? What's the actual nature of the complaint here? That's up to Michael to articulate, if he wants people to take it on board.
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