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MagicBrent
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You could do it in the hand but the mouth is such a vulnerable part of the body that it illicits a more visceral response from specs imho.
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You could do it in the hand but the mouth is such a vulnerable part of the body that it illicits a more visceral response from specs imho.


I totally agree with you, but my style is more comedic and I do have a script I want to keep, in a duo act that I do with a friend's, it could be done in mouth
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You can do it in the hand but it will not look as convincing as it does when the string attached to the hook comes out wet from the mouth.

After performing this several times now I wouldn't do it using the hand.
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Follow RNK,S advice . I don’t have this yet ( on Order) but he has always gave me Dependable advice.
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At the beginning of the performance, does the magician show that one of the strings is tied to the hook?

At the end of the performance, can the hook that's attached to the string be inspected?

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At the beginning of the performance, does the magician show that one of the strings is tied to the hook?

At the end of the performance, can the hook that's attached to the string be inspected?

Thank you,
Greg Rostami

Nope, not possible with what’s going on.

At the beginning and end it cannot be thoroughly inspected, no.
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I understand wondering if they can see the pieces first but you’re thinking like a magician. The way it’s held with pieces going beyond the hook and to the side is enough and the fact that that only one is attached at the end proves it. My son who has adhd, is a scout, and has that keen mind asks “how do I know they’re not all poop poop knots which is some kind of false knot.” I’m just sharing for fun here with you all. There is no false knots, it’s a great trick! I just hate when my teen feels so superior with a wrong solution.
If you saw my previous thread about slapping my face and chugging a shot, with audience management, I’d even be willing to have them pinch the knot and strings while I do that, it’s that cool. You’d have to have a real jerk interfere with your flow to inspect. I’d do this with a female spec anyways. A man wouldn’t care about your pain unless you were close to him. I’m working a routine for work where they have to trust me and I trust them to follow through with the difficult tasks I ask for.
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Sorry if my question may sound stupid, but is it possible to talk with the hook inside your mouth?
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No one has ever asked me to inspect the hook and string when the trick was over. Not to mention, the hook and string is wet when it comes out of your mouth for so know one wants to touch it anyway!

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Will this product be sold by other dealers.
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No one has ever asked me to inspect the hook and string when the trick was over. Not to mention, the hook and string is wet when it comes out of your mouth for so know one wants to touch it anyway!

RNK


Good point. Another reason to put it in the mouth, rather than the hand.
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First I liked it...but if I think 2min about it and laymen will probably think the same...then...for $99...NOPE!
guess you have to handle the last string quiet carefully or the trick could lose its force of attraction...

I am afraid smart laymen will figure this out quiet quick and even if my guess should be wrong: it COULD work like this!
And unfortunately a reason not to buy it for me. Really wanted to like it.
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First I liked it...but if I think 2min about it and laymen will probably think the same...then...for $99...NOPE!
guess you have to handle the last string quiet carefully or the trick could lose its force of attraction...

I am afraid smart laymen will figure this out quiet quick and even if my guess should be wrong: it COULD work like this!
And unfortunately a reason not to buy it for me. Really wanted to like it.


A lot of times we as magicians "think" layman may think as we do but I find that this not the case for Hook. The final reveal when the hook comes out of your mouth looks very convincing. I will say that every time I have performed this the reactions I receive are gasps and disbelief that I would try a stunt so crazy. After the effect was over no one has ever questioned the last reveal when the hook comes out of your mouth. Hook is a definite on the edge of your seat effect. I will say that after I received the effect I to thought the same as SimonTheSorcerer did and was very skeptical and hesitant to perform it. So I emailed Eric about my concerns and Eric told me to just try it out for myself and see what happens. I am so glad I did because it's a definite fooler that immediately grabs and keeps the attention of your audience until the end! You can "feel" the tension in the air from the audience, it's really so cool.

I have no game or advantage in promoting this and actually I was pretty upset that Eric sold the rights to Lost Art and they started selling this for $99.00 (BTW, I paid the full amount). Lost Art really should sell this for more, not because what you receive is costly but because of the intense moments the effect creates within your audience during the whole routine. Majority of the time the participant cringes and squirms when they are trying to decide what string to pull. And when they go to pull the string, this is even better, they are so afraid and hesitant to do so! It's really freakin' awesome! Again, there is no advantage for me to promote Hook, I only share my personal experiences with tricks to help other magicians decide if it's for them or not.


Hopefully Lost Art will raise the price to keep this out of the hands of the curious because it truly is a fantastic piece for an audience to experience.


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Ok so I got Hook this week. This is a great product and I am really excited to try it out. The product was sent to me from LostArt and the customer care was excellent and extremely professional. This works exactly as you see in the demo. 5 strings not attached and one string left at the end attached to the hook. I am using this at the end of a routine where I am in sync (spec as mindreader). I plan to close with hook. I am really curious as to what type of string/ twine that Xavior uses in his demo. someone mentioned previously that the twine that is supplied with the product is rough and coarse (Not a deal breaker though). I would prefer softer string to work with. Anyone have any ideas on the string type? Cheers.
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Ok so I got Hook this week. This is a great product and I am really excited to try it out. The product was sent to me from LostArt and the customer care was excellent and extremely professional. This works exactly as you see in the demo. 5 strings not attached and one string left at the end attached to the hook. I am using this at the end of a routine where I am in sync (spec as mindreader). I plan to close with hook. I am really curious as to what type of string/ twine that Xavior uses in his demo. someone mentioned previously that the twine that is supplied with the product is rough and coarse (Not a deal breaker though). I would prefer softer string to work with. Anyone have any ideas on the string type? Cheers.


I took a trip to a craft store near me and purchased two hemp string alternatives that don't seem to "split" (or shed in my vocabulary) and a roll of yarn that Im going to experiment with.

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Has anyone tried using any type of fishing line?
Seems like the natural thing to go with a fish hook.
Wouldn’t shed or split and should last a long time.
Just surprised no one has specifically said that it would not work if that is the case.
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Has anyone tried using any type of fishing line?
Seems like the natural thing to go with a fish hook.
Wouldn’t shed or split and should last a long time.
Just surprised no one has specifically said that it would not work if that is the case.


that's a great idea, however, when I think about it the fishing line material could interfere with the method...
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Ok. I'm on break right now and came on here. I literally just performed hook and the reactions are just so good! You do not need other string, the string that comes with it is perfect. Can you use other string? I don't see why not but I am just saying what comes with it works perfect! So why fix something that is not broken? Not sure why some here are so hung up on the string that comes with it...

Ok, back to work....
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Ok. I'm on break right now and came on here. I literally just performed hook and the reactions are just so good! You do not need other string, the string that comes with it is perfect. Can you use other string? I don't see why not but I am just saying what comes with it works perfect! So why fix something that is not broken? Not sure why some here are so hung up on the string that comes with it...

Ok, back to work....


The string provided was shedding pieces into my mouth which was very uncomfortable to me but a quick trip to a Michaels and I found alternate hemp cord that gets the job done without the shedding!

Glad it worked out for you - can you enlighten me on your opening? Just curious.
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I understand what your saying about the cord shredding at the ends. Mind sharing what replacement you found that works better? It would be much appreciated! As far as the opening, I just tell them "ok , now we are going to do something a little crazy, sort if a roulette game but don't worry, the victim is going to be me this time." I ham it up a little bit but not to much. The natural of the effect is so strong, for me, I find a little less comedy and a drop more of serious is working well. Also, I feel this effect is one that doesn't need much of an intro, judging by my performances so far with this.
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