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TomB Veteran user Michigan, USA 330 Posts 
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On Nov 27, 2021, MadisonH wrote: Or better yet, script your own story that has nothing to do with anyone's parents. Read the butterfly effect and and make it your own. Use facts that are 80 percent your own. |
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JanForster Inner circle Germany ... when not traveling... 4192 Posts
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In my opinion, the routine itself is VERY good, presentation is always so important - and it should be YOUR presentation, of course. Concerning the method (which I understand and see straight away, but that's not of any importance) - to be honest - I have mixed feelings, but not so in respect for this specific routine; more if I follow the advertising, suggesting that you have another "tool" or "weapon" in your arsenal. As you do not end up with a deck of cards which a spectator could handle himself after what you have to do... I do not see it as a "tool". Jan
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TomB Veteran user Michigan, USA 330 Posts
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I agree Jan. Jan is very eloquent. Read what he said 10 times.
There are weaknesses to all magic tricks and not having a normal deck at the end is not desirable. You do not want to have audience management when the trick is over. You want them to be able to touch the cards. But if you use your old tools, use the matching card earlier in the presentation. Use the reveal to allow misdirection for your old tools. Use it to explain the butterfly effect. Make it part of the story leading into all 52 cards matching. Now they can handle both decks. And it costs you nothing if you already have those tools. If you don't have those tools, it's much cheaper than the pricetag for this trick and will serve you for many other tricks. With the classic method, the remaining 51 cards could be counted out (assuming 1 card used for misdirection). I personally prefer the long drawn out presentation. But you have the option to spread the deck at any point to speed it up. You need to consider these details before buying the new deck at the magic shop. |
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MadisonH Inner circle 1754 Posts
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On Nov 28, 2021, JanForster wrote: I believe the “tool” being referred to is the gimmick and not what is left at the end of the routine. The gimmick is certainly a tool that can be used for multiple effects. Madison |
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JanForster Inner circle Germany ... when not traveling... 4192 Posts
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I see, know and understand... but is it really well usable in other context? Adding t... cards, or just some ordinary... creating a different or gimmicked or thicker deck? A good deck switch leads further then... besides the fact that you could create exact the same routine with a switch, ending clean... I have a precise handling in mind... and can you imagine what fantastic time delay you could achieve if you present the "minor" effect first (the single match of the two cards from the very beginning)...
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Joe Roberts Special user 863 Posts
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On Nov 28, 2021, JanForster wrote: A "delay" will only kill the impact of the deck-matching effect. To prevent the notion that the deck was switched (the only solution a non-magician could really conceive of), you need to start dealing their cards without taking the focus off their deck. |
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Denis Behr Special user Germany 703 Posts
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On Nov 27, 2021, CardGuyMike wrote: A note regarding this: Pit's routine is the original. An earlier version was included as a performance-only item on his The Little Green Lecture video in 1998 as "The Ultimate Coincidence". Wiles seems to have reconstructed the method and published a one-deck version as "26!", with insufficient crediting, in High Spots (2009). With the cat out of the bag, several versions followed since then. Pit's routine remains unpublished. |
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dyoung Special user 900 Posts
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If you do use this, you have two decks in play. Just get rid of the "dirty" one, and continue with the regular deck. Also doesn't have to use the "special" cards.
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JanForster Inner circle Germany ... when not traveling... 4192 Posts
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... delay is not delay ... I wish you could SEE what I mean and do... I put some further thoughts under "Shuffled not stirred"
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stevefaulkner Regular user 169 Posts
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On Nov 26, 2021, Sam Sandler wrote: Good point Sam. I'll definitely change the settings.
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stevefaulkner Regular user 169 Posts
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Quote: On Nov 26, 2021, MattyMediocrity wrote:
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ArtIn Inner circle 1702 Posts
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On Nov 28, 2021, JanForster wrote: It’s a very good idea! |
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CardGuyMike Special user 790 Posts
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On Nov 28, 2021, Denis Behr wrote: Thanks Denis! I was wondering about the background and this is really good info. |
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MadisonH Inner circle 1754 Posts
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On Nov 28, 2021, JanForster wrote: Yes it is as proved by his wonderful multiple selection routine which is also explained 
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Magic Dust Inner circle 1455 Posts
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I like this faster and more enthusiastic demonstration much better
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts
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Better demo but he clearly appears to lose some cards or add on as to why put it on the box otherwise.
Here clearly cuts at that point and the bottom card is no longer the real bottom card that’s blatant to me and puts the cards back in order Gaz 😊 |
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Roberto W Inner circle 1253 Posts
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That’s why you need to put your “big boy trousers on” when doing the moves 😉
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts
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I know the moves and have many effects that use those already and it will fly by layman but it’s not a new idea imo.
There again what is in magic and Josh does it very well indeed as always Gaz 😊 |
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carlwag Special user Huddersfield ,West yorkshire 747 Posts
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I purchased this , it’s a brilliant effect , if you have the bottle to pull of some of the moves which are not hard , add your own storyline. Make it yours , you have a really great effect .
Well done Josh |
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Roberto W Inner circle 1253 Posts
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On Nov 29, 2021, Gaz Lawrence wrote: It’s like everything and every effect, people also need to realise their regular performing surroundings and when they will actually perform this and where. Unless you are in a kind of parlor setting or a pipe and slippers moment, the reality of this is it will hardly be performed. The majority of time workers due to environments, you will never be in a situation of a environment needed to perform this with deserves the time, attention focus. Plus the fact of you ideally needing a table for the required and also the nice final display value of it. |
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