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cloneman Elite user 474 Posts |
Anybody know where I can learn the Vernon Wand Spin?
Curtis Kam uses it to great effect on his first Palms of Steel video (awesome stuff, Curtis!), but does not go into the mechanics of the sleight itself. Now here’s the rub, does anybody know of a Wand Spin resource that’s free on the web? I don't mean to sound cheap, I've just spent too much $$$ on magic lately and would rather not shell out more right now to learn one sleight.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27366 Posts |
The Ammar book tries to teach the thing.
There is a site on pen spinning tricks that teaches the thing too. Google 'biro pen spin'. The ball vanish was in the Vernon Book of Magic, and is a Silent Mora sleight.
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Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
It's explained on the Stevens Cups and Balls Video by Ammar. You can get it from Stevens Magic.
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Dave V Inner circle Las Vegas, NV 4824 Posts |
The pen spins can be learned from http://www.pentrix.com
I haven't browsed it long enough to see if the exact spin is in there, but between that and drumstick spinning, you should have enough to get started.
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
Wait til you do have the money and get the Ammar Cups and Balls DVD #2. Ammar's book is good to but to see the timing, I think a DVD is best.
I would also like to point out that THIS POST HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR EDUCATIONAL AND INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY, AND IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE OR A LEGAL OPINION. :) Frank
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M Pitcher Elite user Around the block 432 Posts |
Pentrix , cool site , thanks for the link
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peter teagle Regular user Redditch, UK 195 Posts |
If you buy the Mercury wand it comes with a card that shows, using photos, how to do the Vernon Wand Spin, The Drummers Spin and the Through the Fist Vanish.
peter
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the application of technique is art." peter teagle |
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Bob Johnston Inner circle Philadelphia, PA 1251 Posts |
Frank Starsini is right. The Ammar’s DVD #2 is far better with the wand spin than any text.
The “teach In” Stevens tape is good but not easy to see and a far cry from the “slow motion” of the DVD. Bob |
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pepijn Regular user Utrecht (the netherlands) 134 Posts |
Hey! I second Larry Barnowsky about the teach in series from Stevens It is a pretty good dvd I think for a beginner like me. Ammar takes the sleight apart pretty good but I cannot compare as Mr. wellington because I don't own the Ammar tape,
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Magictrickster Regular user UK 114 Posts |
I agree that the Mike Ammaer 'The Complete Cups and Balls Video' number 2 is the best source for learning both this and other wand spins, as well as cups and balls itself.
It's also worth getting the book which accompanies the videos. I think these are 'must have' items for anyone who either wishes to learn cups and balls or simply enjoys the effect. Brian.
Brian
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Tarbell Magic Regular user UK 130 Posts |
Credit where credit’s due … it’s the Vernon / Silent Mora Wand Spin.
Exceptional move; and the Ammar DVD is the best learning source. |
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bdekolta Inner circle Texas 1636 Posts |
I think the best place to learn the spin is on the Revelations tapes. You can see/hear Ammar and Vernon talking about the spin.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24321 Posts |
None of these is really worth beans. It's better to learn it from someone who knows how to do it.
I have gone through the Ammar Videos, the Revelations Videos, the Vernon book and the Ammar book. Each one had one or more part that was left out. I finally learned it from a friend of mine who learned it directly from Ammar.
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JordanB Special user dallas, tx 625 Posts |
Bill,
You hit the nail on the head. I have the Ammar books and videos and could not get the knack down until I saw a friend do it. |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Find a good drummer and hang out with him. Why do the same spin as all the other magicians in the herd?
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flowJuggler New user East Coast USA 71 Posts |
Bill...I would love to learn it from you...when is the next time you are going to be in NC?
I have been doing the vernon spin thing, without the vanish for years, but I have always spun the item clockwise, not counter clockwise. Can it work this way? Does anyone do it this way? -P
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
One other point about the Ammar DVD, you can watch him vanish a large billiard ball using the same spin.
COOL!!!! It was done on the DVD as just an eye-catcher but hey! It got me thinking! Frank
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chrisrkline Special user Little Rock 965 Posts |
Quote:
On 2004-05-27 01:05, Frank Starsini wrote: I've seen him do it live from around 15 feet and it is jaw dropping. Doesn't flash a thing.
Chris
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
I worked on the wand spin for years. Terry Vecky did it and I have seen others do it. But it looked like a move.
Then I saw Dai Vernon do it and it was real magic when he did it. I saw him vanis a large read load ball 5 inches from my face... The ball vanished. It was not a magic move when I saw Vernon do it it was magic... For me I decided not to do the move after seeing the master do it. My Father had his rope tie, Don Alan Did the big nut and Vernon did his wand spin... That was a real magic moment!
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Daniel Faith Inner circle Neenah, Wisconsin 1526 Posts |
I certainly wouldn't say the Ammar video isn't worth beans.
That's taking it a bit far. It's an excellent source and it's where I learned it.
Daniel Faith
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