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IAIN
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I think it would be great. There's an over abundance of these review channels and they show the latest thing, very rarely performed to a stranger. They tell us how pretty much everything is great and even the cons aren't really explained as to why they are a con.

Sometimes the con is actually an advantage. But they don't see it.

It's always "hey guys, so and so here, I was lucky enough to see this and I've gone and performed this non stop ever since..." Show us then Mr reviewer ..

Not aimed at us lot who buy something and give initial thoughts that's different.

But those with a channel and a webcam, I wish they'd script their review, back things up with a performance and then give us their evidence to support their somehow qualified opinion...

Tell us why we should listen to you with your freebie. Who are you, where and when do you perform. Why should you tell us to buy something?

Regular purchasers not included in the above.
Tom Cutts
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Or just stop watching those who you think are off base. They are pretty obvious.
IAIN
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Yeah, but they seem to influence quite a few people's opinions...and it grows from there..
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I know what you mean. There are a few good magic reviewers, I like watching Steve Faulkner's real magic reviews just because he does exactly what you mention in your post. When it comes to people exclusively reviewing mentalism products though it all gets a bit 'Jacob-y' (sorry, not sorry) I used to like the Paul Brook and 3 mentalists podcasts, shame they're not around anymore.
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On Jul 20, 2019, IAIN wrote:
Yeah, but they seem to influence quite a few people's opinions...and it grows from there..
That is how the market works it’s magic. [There is a lot to read into that sentence.]
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Could you give an authentic review of a new a car without driving it???? Personally, other than perhaps a quick comment on how something is designed, I will not give a full review on something unless I have taken it out and performed with it.

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John C
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I only buy from those that have a good history with me.
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IAIN
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On Jul 20, 2019, John C wrote:
I only buy from those that have a good history with me.


How can they achieve a good history with you without you buying something in the first place?
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On Jul 20, 2019, IAIN wrote:
I think it would be great. There's an over abundance of these review channels and they show the latest thing, very rarely performed to a stranger. They tell us how pretty much everything is great and even the cons aren't really explained as to why they are a con.

Sometimes the con is actually an advantage. But they don't see it.

It's always "hey guys, so and so here, I was lucky enough to see this and I've gone and performed this non stop ever since..." Show us then Mr reviewer ..

Not aimed at us lot who buy something and give initial thoughts that's different.

But those with a channel and a webcam, I wish they'd script their review, back things up with a performance and then give us their evidence to support their somehow qualified opinion...

Tell us why we should listen to you with your freebie. Who are you, where and when do you perform. Why should you tell us to buy something?

Regular purchasers not included in the above.


Totally!!!!

Some are GREAT. Many suck. Some have a beautiful guy or gal... but I have no CLUE as to whether they are full time/part time performers or creators. If they do neither - then why am I watching? Some came literally from the ether. The review YouTube segments are just getting zany. I like MagicOrthodoxy a lot. I like WPR. Some others are OK too. Steve Faulkner is solid - and he was honest when we sent him a sample Game Night that he was not a regular user of book tests as I recall. Good reviewers balance things out.

Remember that some of the reviewers now are hired by ...

In terms of my reviewing - or my products being reviewed: 1) I will never ever put out a positive review of someone else's product if it isn't good. I might occasionally remain silent, but I will not tout it. Never. Its my reputation. If I lose that, I have nada 2) If someone doesn't like my product, even if I sent it free as a beta test/review - then they should feel free say what they didn't like and why - publicly or privately. I am a big boy - I can deal with it even if I disagree 3) If creators are thin skinned, then I wish they wouldn't send me free stuff. I have a huge box of free stuff that I didn't like enough to review over a period of years, and that is now my magic drawer
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John C
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On Jul 20, 2019, John C wrote:
I only buy from those that have a good history with me.


How can they achieve a good history with you without you buying something in the first place?


There's enough history with enough creators like you and many others that I'm happy with what I have to pick from.

I've been around long enough long before every Café member didn't have something to sell.
I've certainly taken my share of "biting the bullet" some good some bad. But rarely do it now.
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I think posters on this forum who are incentivized by product/service merchants through free products and/or renumeration should disclose their relationship with the merchant before recommending their products/services. Or denigrating a rival.


You know, like how the laws of most countries and the FTC/ASA demand.
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On Jul 21, 2019, Jed Maxwell wrote:
I think posters on this forum who are incentivized by product/service merchants through free products and/or renumeration should disclose their relationship with the merchant before recommending their products/services. Or denigrating a rival.


You know, like how the laws of most countries and the FTC/ASA demand.


Totally agree. And while they're at it, they should be banned from the usual BS cliches- 'I begged him not to release this'. 'Its a game changer'. 'This will even fool magicians' ( who gives a f""k about that?) I'm a bit jaded by it all to be honest. Childish nonsense.
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John C
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You mean like "... This went directly Into my act!"
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Yes that's another classic!
All nonsense.
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