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Jesus drank wine from a grail formed from playing-cards at the Last Supper.
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I might say something gambling related, as it may be more relatable to spectators than ACAAN or something like that. Maybe take a shuffled, borrowed deck and deal out a winning poker hand or all the aces or whatnot. Doesn't have to have a million methods to fool a layman hard, although gambling sleights tend to emphasize quality over quantity anyways from what I have seen.
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Spectator shuffles the cards, and they turn into a duck. The difficulty identifying the subject in the second phrase causes the audience to melt into puddles of cheese. Someone realizes it's edam. The magician says, "made", and the cheese morphs back into the audience, which collectively names a card. The duck quacks, chokes out a card, and it turns into the spectator. The cool feel of a breeze creates goose bumps despite the sealed room.

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Listen, strange ducks laying in ponds distributing cards is no basis for a system of magic. Supreme magical effect derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
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I don't think there is really a holy grail in terms of slight of hand. What matters more, is whether or not you performed it in a way that makes it a MIRACLE!

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On Aug 28, 2019, JoshDude849 wrote:
I don't think there is really a holy grail in terms of slight of hand.
Have you seen Chad Nelson's clipshift? That's useful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4kxNx3PA1E
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I actually haven't seen that before. I must admit that is pretty ingenious.

But of course, some dummy decided to reveal it on YouTube.

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Clipshift is such a monkey knuckle buster.
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My idea of a Holy Grail for card magic would be that the face down card in the spectator's hand changes to whatever card they freely name.
Or, the spectator signs a card and puts it in the middle of the pack which he is holding. When he taps the top of the deck, his card comes to the top.
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To entertain the audience!!!!


After 15 years in magic, I couldn't agree more!
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That's pretty much the entire idea.
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Entertaining the audience is not the grail. It is just the first step.
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On Aug 30, 2019, Pop Haydn wrote:
Entertaining the audience is not the grail. It is just the first step.


I agree. Astonishment needs to be part of the result. But I'd love to hear a pro's take on it. Please tell us more!
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If there is a holy grail, I don’t want to know what it is.
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Think of any card now deal down to any number and that card is the thought of card
Come check out my magic.

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You could just hope it works and then film until it does. Anything goes in magic nowadays, right? (Sarcasm)
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There is an interesting split of folks that interpret The Answer as a Mental or Physical grail.
Does the grail defy the Mind, or Nature?
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Think of any card now deal down to any number and that card is the thought of card


Think of any card, turn over the top card. It is the thought of card.
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Think of any card now deal down to any number and that card is the thought of card


Think of any card, turn over the top card. It is the thought of card.


OK, work with me here! Since the routine is generally billed as ANY card at ANY number, then there is certainly no reason why the spectator couldn't choose 1 as their number, right? So that would be the exact effect you describe.
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Mathematically it's the same, but conceptually it's a bit different. The rationalization for how the magician could have gotten a thought-of card to the top of the deck isn't going to be the same for how the magician could have gotten a thought-of card to the 19th position (or whatever).

Not that I think ACAAN is necessarily the better trick.
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