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Yes, there are numerous versions of the "Light-Heavy" routine.
Ranging from solid wood, and cardboard ... but a transparent box?

I noticed within the "Boxes, tubes & bags" forum, there is an interesting thread on the subject of "Light and Heavy Glass", perhaps this item uses the same principle?

https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......start=20

However, not knowing the secret, I am intrigued by this.
No magnets ... no suckers ... no wires.
Could this be magic?

see it here:
https://www.missionmagic.co.uk/new-the-i......strength
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It is possible to see "what is going on" by watching the video.
Rather than being "too heavy", it is "stuck".

However, properly performed this looks very workable.
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IMO, all light/heavy box effects look "stuck". Especially because you have to hold onto the table while the spectator is trying to lift it so you can try and hide the fact that the box is not just stuck to the table. Yes, if you have access to a real heavy table to place to the box on, then ok, great effect! But that's not the norm.
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The description says you can place it on the table, then walk away as the spectator tries to lift it.
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Yes, this is true with all l/h boxes. The problem is if the table is not anchored to the floor and the table happens to be not a heavy table the spectator will lift both the attached box with the table.
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On Aug 10, 2019, RNK wrote:
Yes, this is true with all l/h boxes. The problem is if the table is not anchored to the floor and the table happens to be not a heavy table the spectator will lift both the attached box with the table.


Yes, you are right, of course... I just know I would never do it with my Gimpy's l/h box, no matter what kind of table it's on. Audience management is critical to this trick.
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Hmm. I have a Gimpys's light and heavy box and would let the spectator pick it up by himself without me being around. I thought that was the premise behind all light and heavy boxes, The Spectator is to pick up the box by himself?

What version do you have?
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I released a light heavy performance mat a year or so ago. With the mat comes 30 min clip that goes into many things about how to best perform this effect. The improved lighter light heavy box has a demonstration in the video using a light table. I show the inability of a large man to pick a 20 lb table with the box set to heavy. If you have a light heavy box don't assume As I did for years that a light table can be lifted easily.It dose take some special techniques. Lots of ways to demonstrate that the box is not stuck to the table.Using a light table is one way. There is so much more to this than whats inside the box. I think that's about as much as I can say here in open.
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I released a light heavy performance mat a year or so ago. With the mat comes 30 min clip that goes into many things about how to best perform this effect. The improved lighter light heavy box has a demonstration in the video using a light table. I show the inability of a large man to pick a 20 lb table with the box set to heavy. If you have a light heavy box don't assume As I did for years that a light table can be lifted easily.It dose take some special techniques. Lots of ways to demonstrate that the box is not stuck to the table.Using a light table is one way. There is so much more to this than whats inside the box. I think that's about as much as I can say here in open.


Interesting Gimpy, how can we view this video? Do you have to buy the mat? Just wondering if you could put the video out for those who do not want the mat? I'm trying to think how this could be possible without actually securing the light table to the floor before the performance. I can possibly see using verbal instruction on "how" the box should be lifted off the table that might help the spectator to not lift the table while lifting the box. But that's in itself would not be 100% surefire.

Would love to get a look at the video!
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This looks like a pre-made version of "Unliftable" by Thinking Paradox.
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On Aug 12, 2019, gimpy2 wrote:
I released a light heavy performance mat a year or so ago. With the mat comes 30 min clip that goes into many things about how to best perform this effect. The improved lighter light heavy box has a demonstration in the video using a light table. I show the inability of a large man to pick a 20 lb table with the box set to heavy. If you have a light heavy box don't assume As I did for years that a light table can be lifted easily.It dose take some special techniques. Lots of ways to demonstrate that the box is not stuck to the table.Using a light table is one way. There is so much more to this than whats inside the box. I think that's about as much as I can say here in open.


Interesting Gimpy, how can we view this video? Do you have to buy the mat? Just wondering if you could put the video out for those who do not want the mat? I'm trying to think how this could be possible without actually securing the light table to the floor before the performance. I can possibly see using verbal instruction on "how" the box should be lifted off the table that might help the spectator to not lift the table while lifting the box. But that's in itself would not be 100% surefire.

Would love to get a look at the video!


I can not post the video clip as it is part of the product. Even if you never use the mat you can use the advanced tutorial to turn your light heavy box into a real fooler. There is so much here to learn. I don't know why anyone would not want to use the mat. Its the best way to prove that the box is not just stuck to the table.

Keep in mind that the effect should not be that the box is sometimes heavy but that the box is never heavy but for some reason the lifter is unable to lift the box. The more ways you have to show the box is light the better the effect will be,
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