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Despite a certain amount of rancor, this thread is interesting and instructive. I take issue with only one thing: someone bad-mouthed jokers. I *adore* jokers. I don't particularly like the jokers in new decks, but the old jokers that look like the jesters or clowns in Shakespeare are charming. They remind me of the delightfully mischievous Puck (when he's played that way). I realize that the rest of you have been talking about the craft of magic; in contrast, I'm addressing its atmosphere. For me, at least, one thing that makes tricks magical is when we can associate them effectively with what's traditionally considered magical -- Arabian Nights, elves, fairies (both the cute ones and the dangerous, fey ones -- for a modern take on the latter, see the novel Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell, or, even better, Kipling's masterful poem, The Ballad of Minepit Shaw https://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/ballad_of_minepit.html). Perhaps my views are passé in this age of the internet, bright lights, and box stores, but I love what I grew up with.


Anyway, since this thread seems to have largely run its course, I'd be curious to hear others' ideas of what makes magic "magical."


Best wishes to all,

Bob
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P. S. The stanzas in which the fairy ("Pharisee") replies to the poachers late in Kipling's poem are beautiful example of how nonsensical lines can build atmosphere in a poem.


("Are you interested in poetry at all," asked Pooh. "Hardly at all," replied Kanga absently, her eyes still on Roo.) (Or words to that effect.)
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On Sep 2, 2019, Rupert Pupkin wrote:
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On Sep 2, 2019, Mr Salk wrote:
I'm not the lone voice in the forest railing against dupes. The widespread usage of signed-pick is a direct refutation of the possibility of duplicates.


And magicians like Guy Hollingworth and Michael Feldman have devised ways to use duplicates AND signatures, to remarkable results. A tool is only as smart as its wielder.


Indeed, having a pre-signed dupe makes the 2 card transpo a lot stronger, almost making it a different trick (instead of how did that card get there?... how did that signature get there?). However, in respect to the OP who asked about the magicians deck on hand, having that deck be the only one can be a problem. To get around it, I carry 2 packs (along with a lot of other non-card doodads), switching out if necessary. Lynn
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