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On Sep 11, 2019, EZrhythm wrote:
And this is preferable instead of Quiver, how?


I guess it's context. It is for me. Some things don't naturally get put inside an envelope but do a coin purse and vice versa...

You could technically put a mini playing card in a coin purse, but should you? That kinda thing...
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Are there cheaper ways to achieve the same effect with decorated envelopes? I've been religiously following the thread but it's still not clear to me
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Are there cheaper ways to achieve the same effect with decorated envelopes? I've been religiously following the thread but it's still not clear to me

You could buy my effect "Sucker!" for a couple of cents less.
Basically and without giving the method away at all, you take a regular envelope, and after putting the card inside, you point to the window and shout "Ooooh - look at that!!" whilst removing card one and inserting card two.
Job done and everything can be inspected.
For this method I do NOT recommend decorating the envelope as this can attract the audience and remove them from the necessary misdirection.
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Andrew1, I’d like to pre-order, but I can’t find a verification form.
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On Sep 11, 2019, EZrhythm wrote:
And this is preferable instead of Quiver, how?


I think if you want the spec to open the envelope, this is preferable to Quiver.
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Smile nicely understated explanation
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This appears locked at the off and only unlocked for the switch if needed . That move appears to be when the magician needs to open the envelope imo .
If the prediction goes the way you wish the spectator just opens normally . I am speculating as I don’t think this locks both ways Gaz 🙂 ps I will
find out very soon now
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Correct speculation as usual Gaz.
I now have both Black Door and Blake Vogt's Number 4 Envelope.
Both have pros and cons but I prefer Black Door overall but of course it only has half the number of outs so that is a big disadvantage.
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No "hi-jacking" involved here, as the ignorant call it. The Magic Nook only sells to verified magicians, and I can see that none are present, so I'll be on my way.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hijack


I can attest that! This nook refused to sell me a product
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On Sep 20, 2019, videoman wrote:
Correct speculation as usual Gaz.
I now have both Black Door and Blake Vogt's Number 4 Envelope.
Both have pros and cons but I prefer Black Door overall but of course it only has half the number of outs so that is a big disadvantage.


Which makes it more of a switch device than an outs tool perhaps
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On Sep 20, 2019, videoman wrote:
Correct speculation as usual Gaz.
I now have both Black Door and Blake Vogt's Number 4 Envelope.
Both have pros and cons but I prefer Black Door overall but of course it only has half the number of outs so that is a big disadvantage.


Which makes it more of a switch device than an outs tool perhaps


Yes Brett, that's a good way to put it.
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Thanks guys for your input , I have preordered from Penguin and I agree it’s a switch but looks a good one Gaz 🙂
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There is a nice way to do more than 2 outs taught in the download. It's attributed to Colin Cloud. I've used it with 4 myself.
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Oh cool, I need to finish watching the video.
I already had a particular use in mind for mine so I got right into that.

FYI, for those with decent A&C experience you can certainly make additional envelopes as long as you have, or know where to get, the secret ingredient. I unfortunately do not know of a source, but I haven't tried looking either. With care the envelope should hold up pretty well.

However, I did shorten the length of one envelope about 3/4" because I wanted it to fit in my wallet. This means it will no longer hold playing cards or business cards but I only needed it to hold a folded billet.
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The secret ingredient is easily acquired on Amazon. You can also use something else that's commonly available by using scissors and glue.
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I figured as much since there aren't many items which are not available on Amazon. Smile

But I had completely forgotten about a stash of the required material that I had in storage and hadn't used or seen for a while. I dug it out and there is plenty to make envelopes for days.
Coincidentally, in the same box as the secret ingredient was a ton of black construction paper I had also forgotten about. Now I'm starting to wonder if maybe I had made of some of these envelopes or something very similar a long time ago??????

Well, I probably won't need to make any for quite a while but if and when I do then I am all set.
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My set is wearing out from the one hand practicing. Has anyone used clear tape on the outer edges of the envelopes by chance?

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I am still awaiting mine from penguin , but I am certainly going to use some no tear clear matt tape on one of mine to experiment .
I have also ordered some Tyvek A4 paper to try to make one up if I can in that . Plus also some normal paper spares providing I like it when it arrives .
It looks great on the tutorial Gaz 🙂
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Good idea Gaz.....yeah no tear. I have used tape on other paper props in the past and never been questioned...as long as it does not hinder the operation of course.
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