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In addition to getting to grips with the coins, fairly recently I've also been exploring the Hermann Pass and its variations. I've been studying the Classic Pass for around a year but never took much notice of the HP until now and I like it - done right it's far more effective than I previously gave it credit for.

So-far, my favourite (as in most "natural" and convincing) version is when you finish by lifting the bottom packet up vertically to meet the top packet, and my "pull-back" variation and Midnight Shift aren't far behind, so before long I should be able to switch between them to mix it up a bit. (I learn't most of what I've picked up from the "Shift - 21 card shifts and passes" DVD by Magic Makers).

So, what are your favourite/most effective Hermann Pass variations?
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No move is perfect, but the Marlo Table Edge Pass comes pretty close. You get the cover of the HP and the speed of the CP, all under the guise of a very natural gesture, tapping the deck on the table edge-wise to square it.
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On Sep 9, 2019, The Burnaby Kid wrote:
No move is perfect, but the Marlo Table Edge Pass comes pretty close. You get the cover of the HP and the speed of the CP, all under the guise of a very natural gesture, tapping the deck on the table edge-wise to square it.


That sounds interesting. I see it's explained in Marlo's The Cardician DVD but as I'm trying to build my magic book collection, is it covered in a book somewhere?
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Hi Burnaby Kid - Is the "Table Edge Pass" the same as the "End Tap Pass?" What you describe sounds like what we called "The End Tap Pass." It's an excellent HP variant and in many ways, a precursor to the Midnight Shift.

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This is my variation of the HP. The ROV is what makes it so deceptive.https://youtu.be/Qys-P9p_3CU
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My memory, like my bank account, isn't what it used to be, but I'm almost 100% positive it's the one called "the Table Edge Pass" on the Cardician DVD as it isn't done entirely in the hands. Unfortunately, I don't know where it can be found in print. According to the Conjuring Archive, there's something called "The Table's Edge" published in Marlo's Magazine Vol 4, but that's described as a Charlier, when my memory of the one on the Cardician DVD was a two-handed pass.

If somebody who has that DVD can verify, it'd keep me from losing sleep tonight on the issue...
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Oh, who am I kidding. I'll be passing out drunk in a couple of hours.
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A Classic Passout?

Thanks Burnaby. I'll mull it over for a while but I think it's fairly safe to say I'll be adding that DVD to my collection soon.
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Eh... I'd hold off on purchasing it if it's just for the one move. It's great, but keep in mind, applications for the pass are few and far between, and this particular pass requires you to be seated at a table (or some elevated surface like a bar counter if standing).
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Thanks, I appreciate that. The points you raise are the reason my concious self is mulling it over. In reality though, it knows that my sunbconcious self has already decided that it looks like a worthwhile DVD with a fantastic sounding Ed Marlo documentary, loads of his stuff, and that it's probably about time I added something by him to my collection.

I'll give it a week, maximum.
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See "The End Tap Pass" from Marlo Without Tears. Also the section on the pass in Marlo Magazine 2.

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Thanks Mike. How do you go about getting hold of the "Marlo Magazine"? Is it a case of waiting for them to appear on eBay?
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Marlo Magazines are difficult to come by. Ebay is certainly one place to look. I am lucky to have the entire set of 6 "magazines." I put quotes around "Magazine" since they are more like spiral bound books of large format and over 300 pages each. Marlo was prolific! Also difficult to obtain is "The Unexpected Card Book."

Actually the "End Tap Pass" isn't in Marlo Magazine 2, as far as I can tell. What I was referring to is the section on the Pass in Magazine 2 with a load of methods and ideas.

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I always make a pause when the bottom packet up vertical to the top packet.and after a while I will shake my hands to do some misdirection,the big movement will conceal the small one.I can shake both of my hands just like I am talking normally or I can shake my left hand when I can interpret that the target card will rise after my shaking.
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Hi all. Hugard and Braue wrote a hardback book (an entire book!) on their so called 'Invisible pass', this is no more than a variant of the Hermann pass but it is explained in incredibly clear detail with Donna Allen's fabulous line drawing together with the photos the drawings were made from. The book can't have been a big seller as it remained in print for years (decades!) after the authors had shuffled their mortal coil.

Ever since I read this book I've preferred this method to the standard Hermann version and still use it to this day, in addition to the classic pass of course. Highly recommended.
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Steve Draun's Midnight Shift/ Graveyard Shift
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There are many Marlovian passes. Randy Wakeman uses three of them in his version of the Cavorting Aces (Daley et al.) Regular turnover pass, Wrist Turn Pass, and the Midnight Shift mentioned above. He also describes the workings of many passes in his books.
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Some interesting sounding books mentioned above. I'll keep an eye open for them, thanks.


Over the last week I've been playing with a new idea for the HP (caveat: new to me, it's probably been done already by someone): covering the initial action of raising of the top packet/lowering of the bottom packet under the action of dribbling the cards and ending by bringing the new bottom packet up on its edge to meet the concealed packet under the action of a post-drible square-up. It seems to work well.
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Similar concept to what you are describing.

https://youtu.be/hqEqEqyaSn8
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