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Sean Mann
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Rob, did you purchase Roll? Because if you did and they haven't giving you access to the handling, that's out of order and needs to be addressed. If you didn't, then why would they did you access? My response to you would be at or near the bottom of emails I would need to send.
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To hopefully help clear some things up, Chris did say the reason this was re-released was aside from a few subtle additions, he was never compensated for the original release. So Itís good to actually support the creator this time... and itís a fantastic effect.
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The Greek
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Actually TuneHV this is not true. Chris was contacted about him telling Alakazam he didnít get paid but didnít respond as he did get paid and evidence was also supplied to Peter Nardi that Chris received payment. So Chris sold the rights to a trick he was paid for by saying he never received payment. Your statement doesnít clear anything up.
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On Oct 2, 2019, The Greek wrote:
Actually TuneHV this is not true. Chris was contacted about him telling Alakazam he didnít get paid but didnít respond as he did get paid and evidence was also supplied to Peter Nardi that Chris received payment. So Chris sold the rights to a trick he was paid for by saying he never received payment. Your statement doesnít clear anything up.


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And if you believe that Iíve got a timeshare for sale.

I wasnít paid for my work, anyone who believes that should order some stuff from his website and see what turns up, or release a trick with him.
The Greek
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Chris you are saying you didnít get paid. What was the payment made to you on the 14th of August 2015. You need to stop telling people you are a victim when a full and final settlement was made to you and proof of payment was shown to Peter Nardi. You got sacked due to your dishonesty and all you are trying to do is make someone else out to be the dishonest one.

Chris received a full and final settlement for all work done after he got sacked and started spreading rumours. Donít detract from the matter at hand. You are saying you never got paid. Either you received payment or not. As there is d offence you did get paid, stop telling people you didnít.
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If The Greek is the guy who owns and runs magictao, I don't think he has any right to critique someone else for bad business practices. Whoever runs magictao is a charlatan.
I've asked to be banned
Iain Moran
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On Oct 3, 2019, The Greek wrote:
Chris you are saying you didnít get paid. What was the payment made to you on the 14th of August 2015. You need to stop telling people you are a victim when a full and final settlement was made to you and proof of payment was shown to Peter Nardi. You got sacked due to your dishonesty and all you are trying to do is make someone else out to be the dishonest one.

Chris received a full and final settlement for all work done after he got sacked and started spreading rumours. Donít detract from the matter at hand. You are saying you never got paid. Either you received payment or not. As there is d offence you did get paid, stop telling people you didnít.

It's amusing you are trying to portray yourself as a person of honestly and integrity! Yet one only has to read the dozens and dozens of posts on here about your business practices, to make their own minds up. All the threads of people paying you for items they never received, but funnily enough, you didn't respond to those posts.

If anyone is on the fence, I suggest you search for "Magic Tao" on here and elsewhere.

Iain.
The Unmasked Magician
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Being a neutral observant I have to say the Iains and other non-Greek parties are winning this discussion.
Please check regularly if you are becoming the type of magician Jerry Seinfeld jokes about. (This applies to mentalists as well.)
chriscongreave
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One of us is dishonest, I'll let everyone else decide which one.
Scoop1981
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I don't generally get involved in magician's arguments but I've never met anyone with a bad word to say about Chris yet I know from experience that Magic Tao (or The Greek) is not someone you want to have any dealings with. Still waiting for my order or a refund.....
jayder
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Just saying a payment was made doesn't prove nothing. You may not have paid all the money actually agreed.A search of your company on here doesn't show your business practises in a great light.
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Costas the guy who owns TAOMagic also stole and sold an effect off me. Avoid this guy like the plague.

This guy is an absolute JOKE.

We donít need dishonest people in the magic community.
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On Oct 3, 2019, magicianphiltay wrote:
Costas the guy who owns TAOMagic also stole and sold an effect off me. Avoid this guy like the plague.

This guy is an absolute JOKE.

We donít need dishonest people in the magic community.


Unfortunately, though there are those that do tend to crop up now and then. Knowing that this is a re-release and that Peter Nardi has been shown evidence I think I may well buy it. I am 99.9% sure that if the evidence were convincing then Alakazam would not be putting this out. It suggests to me that all is good with them selling it.
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The Greek how about not spending time here and use it wisely like... ship/fulfill orders and make some pending refunds... some are still waiting?

Walk the talk.

an example of many as a reminder: https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......orum=177
roblane
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On Sep 23, 2019, docguitarman wrote:
Perhaps this should be in another thread but Lybrary just released the video for diception for $10.00

https://www.lybrary.com/diception-p-923291.html


Good call, Doc.$10 and a couple of decks, bargain! Easy to make up, too
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chriscongreave
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On Oct 18, 2019, roblane wrote:
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On Sep 23, 2019, docguitarman wrote:
Perhaps this should be in another thread but Lybrary just released the video for diception for $10.00

https://www.lybrary.com/diception-p-923291.html


Good call, Doc.$10 and a couple of decks, bargain! Easy to make up, too


And Costas will make money from that, how about you buy it from Alakazam, or Any dealer as ďRollĒ or from me....?

Or would you rather support someone who rips off his brothers?
The Unmasked Magician
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I think Chris' suggestion is the right thing to do.
Please check regularly if you are becoming the type of magician Jerry Seinfeld jokes about. (This applies to mentalists as well.)
Cameron Francis
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I am a huge fan of card reveals written on the backs of cards. This looks great! Love it, Chris.
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453rob
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Sean Mann, just to clarify. I did by Diception by Chris Congreave. I emailed Alakazam asking them if they would add the new handling to my account since Roll is the same effect. They explained to me after my post and email that they have bought the rights to the trick. Diception was published by Magictao and therefore not an Alakazam product. I fully understand this now. I highly recommend "Roll". It is a fantastic effect. Reminds me of Annihilation Deck by Cameron Francis.Also great.
chriscongreave
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Thanks Cameron, as Rob mentions above your brilliant effect "Anhialation deck" was a big part of my inspiration for this effect.
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