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Cliffg37 Inner circle Long Beach, CA 2490 Posts
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For all you James Bond fans out there, you are probably aware that James is seldom bested in a fight. He can be hit over the head from behind, drugged, gassed, etc. But usually wins in man-to-man fist-to-fist encounters.
Can anyone suggest what style of fighting James uses? Near as I can tell there is little more to it that brutal street fighting. Roger Moore, when faced with an enemy once took a boxing stance, but he did not box. Daniel Craig is the most brutal of Bonds in a fight, but other than a brilliant Parkour opening sequence, I've never seen martial arts from him. Most of them have shown good MacGyver skills when it comes to picking up something around them to use as a weapon. Any thoughts on this? Is there a British martial art? How are real British agents taught to fight?
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magicfish Inner circle 7209 Posts
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James Bond is a girl.
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 22724 Posts
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Bill beat me to it.
I first encountered the style in the 90's. We showed some Mossad officers how to use the PR-24, and they shared interrogation and fighting techniques. The intent of the style is to never leave your feet. If you understand the organization you know why. Almost 100% of their life is within the border of the enemy. In that part of the world being on the ground ends in death. There is way more to the style as used by the Mossad than is taught in most classes. It can be an incredibly brutal style by necessity and design. But as for what ol James uses it is a style that is invented for Hollywood movies and little more at first. The latter movies got into more defined style. If you want, watch the John Wick movies. That has some pretty defined techniques.
Danny Doyle
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 3074 Posts
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On Oct 10, 2019, magicfish wrote: No, that's "Nomi!"
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27464 Posts
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Quote: Rumor has it the code "007" gets reassigned.
On Oct 10, 2019, magicfish wrote: So would "007" becoming "888" be so bad?
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 3074 Posts
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On Oct 12, 2019, Jonathan Townsend wrote: "888?" Bond is retired in the new film, Leiter calls him out of retirement for a job he needs help with, and he works with the "new" "007," who is a woman named "Nomi." I see this ending one of several ways; Nomi burns out on the field and retires, the number going back to Bond. (Not very likely, as it's too close to what Eve Moneypenny did.) Nomi gets killed on the job and Bond regains the "007" designation. (Very probable) Nomi turns out to BE the "big bad" they've been seeking and Bond has to kill her himself. (Not very likely, but not impossible.)
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 3074 Posts
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Actually, in the book version of "You Only Live Twice," Bond, completely burned out and expecting to be removed from service, gets a "promotion" to the Diplomatic Corp., to go to Japan and negotiate a code exchange. His new designation for the mission is "7777," it would be interesting if they referenced that in this new film.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 22724 Posts
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I have SERIOUS doubts as to if they will flat out kill the first female 007 designation on the first time out. I also really doubt that they will immediately turn her bad. Those just do not make any sense at all.
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 3074 Posts
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Oh, I did have a fourth idea. Bond either dies or goes back into retirement, and the film series is now "007" with different characters getting the designation over the course of the series.
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 3290 Posts
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Wasn't he a ninja in one?
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27464 Posts
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Quote: You Only Live Twice had a school of ninja.On Oct 16, 2019, critter wrote:
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 3290 Posts
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I seem to remember him learning Judo and having terrible make up as part of his ninja training but it's been a while.
Looks like The Rock's grandfather was a fight choreographer on it so some pro wrestling too. I seem to recall Judo Gene LeBell doing some bond movies and Judo was one of the real MI5 styles in Fleming's day.
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 3290 Posts
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I think he also fenced.
Typhoon Tuck
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27464 Posts
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Here's what I found about fencing: https://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/artic......ther-day
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 15717 Posts
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He fights dirty.
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 3290 Posts
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I remembered another thing about the ninja in the James Bond books is that they inspired Stephen K Hayes to go to Japan in search of ninja and he was one of the key players in the 80s ninja boom. Maybe THE most important figure in the US in the "real world."
It's certain that his instructor, Masaaki Hatsumi, was skilled in Jujutsu but it's still debatable whether his ninjutsu lineage is fully on the up and up. Nonetheless, Hayes is a very good martial artist and instructor.
Typhoon Tuck
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 22724 Posts
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I think he is the single reason for the popularity of the style in the 90's in America. He himself was a gifted athlete. Whether the style worked as well for anyone else was always the question.
He is a great instructor and salesman. Because of the nature if Ninjutsu and the way it started, and the 74 or so different families having a defined style wad difficult to begin with. Often they used broken Samurai swords. The tradition is shrouded in mystery and myth for a reason. All to say I agree critter!
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts
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Years ago I stumbled across some television segment comparing various martial arts.
They had a contraption comprising, if I recall correctly, five platforms (each a circular disk about 1 foot in diameter), each atop a relatively thin, metal post; the posts were flexible (so that if you weren't balanced over the center of the platform, it would sway and tip), and graduated from about one foot high to about five feet high. They had practitioners of the different martial arts try to climb this thing: standing on the lowest platform, gaining their balance, then moving to the next, and so on. Most handled the shortest with ease, struggled with the second, and fell off when they tried the third. Karate, tae kwon do, judo, muay thai, whatever. Then came the ninjutsu artist. Not only did he make it to the highest platform, he was bounding from one platform to the next and back like an ibex. It was mesmerizing to watch. |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18762 Posts
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I have James Bonds book... He's a bird watcher.
https://www.amazon.com/Black-White-Birds......4&sr=8-1
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