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Jerskin
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The Magic Castle library is quite extensive but even they don't have every book
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On Dec 29, 2019, Jerskin wrote:
The Magic Castle library is quite extensive but even they don't have every book


I have a number of books that the Castle doesn't have. Nothing special about that in that I just happened to buy some stuff that no one has given them. I think Conjuring Arts in New York has more than the Castle.
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Once I heard that magic was the art with more written books...

I dunno if is true but it would be cool
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I've heard that too.
A bit off topic but I live in L.A. and the libraries carry some obscure books left by magicians who lived here.
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On Jan 3, 2020, Jerskin wrote:
I've heard that too.

You probably heard it from a board like this one and it was almost certainly written by someone who has never researched the matter and is therefore in no position to express an informed opinion about it.

By 'arts' I suppose it is meant 'performing arts' which rather limits the competition, but I do think people are grossly over estimating the volume of magic books whilst under estimating other subjects (probably because they've never considered how many books these other disciplines may have).

The Magic Castle claims to have probably the largest magic library in the World but they don't say on their website what their holding is. The Magic Circle in London say they have 6,000 books and that this is one of the largest libraries. I suspect Copperfield can trump both the Castle and the Circle. He is stated to have a magic collection of 200,000 items, however the large majority of these items are artifacts, props, costumes, letters, posters etc of the greats of the past and only a proportion of the total are books. Just looking at those numbers we can see that there any many other disciplines which have a far larger number of books than magic.

People should at least consider the number of books in other subjects before making such sweeping statements as 'magic has more books than any other subject...' Of course when it comes to 'quality' of the books concerned, magic books are often very tawdry indeed.
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On Jan 4, 2020, Topper2 wrote:

The Magic Castle claims to have probably the largest magic library in the World but they don't say on their website what their holding is. The Magic Circle in London say they have 6,000 books and that this is one of the largest libraries. I suspect Copperfield can trump both the Castle and the Circle. He is stated to have a magic collection of 200,000 items, however, the large majority of these items are artifacts, props, costumes, letters, posters etc of the greats of the past and only a proportion of the total are books. Just looking at those number,s we can see that there any many other disciplines which have a far larger number of books than magic.

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The Castle library is not the largest in the world, and as a member, I have never heard that claim made. Part of that is because the Castle buys few items on its own and is very dependent on donations. Don't get me wrong--they collection is very large, but it is not exhaustive.

I believe Copperfield's holdings (he bought the Mulholland Library which was the largest at the time of purchase and I am sure he has added on to it) are larger. I think the Conjuring Arts Research Center and the American Magic Museum collections are both larger than the Castle's too. That said, renovations are planned, if not underway, to expand the space of the Castle library.
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On Jan 4, 2020, EvilClown wrote:

The Castle library is not the largest in the world, and as a member, I have never heard that claim made.


A Castle representative has stated: "We have books in our library dating back to 1786 that show exactly how magic is done. That library is probably the best magic library in the world."

Apologies if I'm wrong, but I took the word 'best' to imply that they were claiming the 'largest' collection in the World. They may have intended to claim the best in quality rather than size, but I think many readers would assume, as I did, that they meant 'biggest'.

Scroll down to the bottom of the following link to find the quote I referred to:

https://www.insider.com/what-its-like-in......e-2019-8
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On Jan 3, 2020, Jerskin wrote:
I've heard that too.

You probably heard it from a board like this one and it was almost certainly written by someone who has never researched the matter and is therefore in no position to express an informed opinion about it.

By 'arts' I suppose it is meant 'performing arts' which rather limits the competition, but I do think people are grossly over estimating the volume of magic books whilst under estimating other subjects (probably because they've never considered how many books these other disciplines may have).

The Magic Castle claims to have probably the largest magic library in the World but they don't say on their website what their holding is. The Magic Circle in London say they have 6,000 books and that this is one of the largest libraries. I suspect Copperfield can trump both the Castle and the Circle. He is stated to have a magic collection of 200,000 items, however the large majority of these items are artifacts, props, costumes, letters, posters etc of the greats of the past and only a proportion of the total are books. Just looking at those numbers we can see that there any many other disciplines which have a far larger number of books than magic.

People should at least consider the number of books in other subjects before making such sweeping statements as 'magic has more books than any other subject...' Of course when it comes to 'quality' of the books concerned, magic books are often very tawdry indeed.


I actually heard it from Chris Ramsay...
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On Jan 5, 2020, Topper2 wrote:
A Castle representative has stated: "We have books in our library dating back to 1786 that show exactly how magic is done. That library is probably the best magic library in the world."

Apologies if I'm wrong, but I took the word 'best' to imply that they were claiming the 'largest' collection in the World. They may have intended to claim the best in quality rather than size, but I think many readers would assume, as I did, that they meant 'biggest'.

Scroll down to the bottom of the following link to find the quote I referred to:

https://www.insider.com/what-its-like-in......e-2019-8


Joe Furlow is the General Manager of the Castle and a non-magician. Don't get me wrong. The Castle collection is amazing. I am fairly certain it is not the largest though. As far as best? It is certainly up there. Copperfield and Conjuring Arts are quite good too. Not sure how you would rank them.
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