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Ouch. Imagine the unboxing videos.
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Congrats Peter, can't wait to get my hands on one!
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On Nov 14, 2019, GeraintClarke wrote:

It's how you get new blood into the art.



From the campaign:

NO SKILLS NEEDED

Be a stud, instead of a third wheel

Make meeting people easier (especially dates)

*shows video of woman breaking down into tears* Reactions like this will be the norm for you

Art my ****. Enjoy the money.
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Yeah, shame eh...the woman crying...nah, not for me...

And the whole "never be called boring again" thing...

Maybe if we make everyone a mentalist something new will happen but I doubt it.

What material are they using for the pad and wallet?

New inventions? I'm gonna guess the stuff paral@bs first introduced...
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Also, I'd take a swing that the book is FB'd?

Happy to be wrong, I mean, I really hope I am...
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Be a stud? Yeah, ALL the mentalists I've met are total lady-magnets.
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Be a stud? Yeah, ALL the mentalists I've met are total lady-magnets.


Well, magnets can repel each other, so...maybes...
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Does it come with a copy of The Game?

Sorry for trolling... Smile
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It looks as though Ellusionist is very close to meeting the kickstart price of 20k. I was going through the investment choices and thought that I already own at minimum a few of the techniques in the video. ( I think ). BUT..... and Iíve been very open about this in previous ellusionist posts. Peter Turnerís mind IS the holy grail in mentalism. And as frustrated as Iíve been with ellusionist over a 150$ product that didnít function the way it was suppose to. I can say that Iím going to be a proud investor of anything Peter Turner releases or has his hands in when it comes to being made public, Regardless of who itís released through. I canít think of a time that Iíve ever had questions about a product I purchased directly from Turner that he didnít respond to. And that not only goes a long way. But also cements my support for him and his material no matter what differences I have with the middle man. Iím looking forward to this, so count me in Mr Turner.
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Compared to most of the dross out there nowadays this is bloody good value for money.
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This is meant to be an introduction - but it's an extremely in depth intro. You'd expect nothing less than that from Peter and it's been super interesting to be on the periphery of this project's development.
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So is it $89 or $99? Two prices are listed.

And do all editions include an app?
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On Nov 14, 2019, IAIN wrote:
Yeah, shame eh...the woman crying...nah, not for me...

And the whole "never be called boring again" thing...

Maybe if we make everyone a mentalist something new will happen but I doubt it.

What material are they using for the pad and wallet?

New inventions? I'm gonna guess the stuff paral@bs first introduced...


Nope - no Paral@bs stuff, you canít control the way someone reacts but what you can do is learn how to deal with a situation like that when they do react in that manner. I didnít for one second expect that reaction but as you know when doing Q+A style routines questions come up, things like - Name the person that means the most to me etc. Questions in that elk.

I was compassionate, caring and more importantly I listened and I stayed in the middle of the road never being unethical.

Regardless of whether you enjoy the marketing or not, the stuff shared is of value. Only mentalists care whether a book is gim*icked (itís not Ted kíd or flashblacked, itís simpler). Regardless, Itís what you do with it that counts and how you use it convincingly and how you use other books that are not gimmicked in conjunction with it.

Safety nets for performing things we over complicate as mentalists, refine what we already know. I have NEVER done anything for the people that want to learn Mentalism at the start of their journey and this covers that and then some with sound philosophy for people at all levels.

What does a video trailer matter? The content is solid and the merit of the product should be judged on that, Iím confident - weíre confident.

Donít judge a book by its cover.

Pete x
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But mate, trailers and advertising blurbs are what sell the sizzle...

Do you teach how to handle these situations?
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On Nov 14, 2019, IAIN wrote:
But mate, trialers and advertising blurbs are what sell the sizzle...

Do you teach how to handle these situations?


If youíre referring to that kind of reaction - Yes. Anything that came up naturally like that I talked about. There was a number of things that occurred and I covered hours of material. In a range of situations, even dealing with hard audiences and dealing with situations that are not the best environments to perform in (surrounded, tough crowds etc.)

In regards to the sizzle, a company is going to put their best foot forward to market their product - itís logical.

Every company in the world does that.

If you think this type of marketing is not to your liking Iíd hate to think of your thoughts on back of magic / Mentalism adverts from things like the jinx.

Letís stick to the topic, I get the advert is the only thing you can see and thatís your opinion to the advertising but itís the product we are discussing. Drop a thread about marketing in Mentalism and tag this in there.

Pete x
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Under the crying woman, the blurb reads...

"Think about what it takes to put this kind of expression on someoneís face. What does it TAKE? See a pink elephant? A car coming at you head-on? Win the lottery?

Reactions like this will be the norm for youÖ."

I agree that you can't control the full reaction, and despite our intentions and saying don't think about someone that was close that died etc, people still do exactly that.

But here, I think the blurb is promising quite a heavy emotive experience. One that I think people are not well equipped to deal with in reality.
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Can I ask about the two guarantees offered with the product:

1. If I perform this in a bar, I will not have to take my wallet out of my pocket.
- If I do have to take my wallet out of my pocket where do I send the receipts? I'm assuming you'll cover the cost?
- I note the set comes with a wallet, does the guarantee cover this wallet?

2. No one will ever call me 'boring'
- If someone calls me boring, will you personally come to correct them or shall I pass them a phone number/email?
- Does this stop them from calling me boring or correct them after the event? It's not clear from the video.

Really interested in changing my life as promised in the video too.
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I think they mean all of the reactions in general - shocked, stunned, elated. 99% of the reactions in the trailer are good, positive reactions and as you said you canít control how someone reacts. That means via proxy someone could react like that from the material you write about and share, do you teach them how to deal with that type of reaction? If so, youíve done nothing more (or less than me). If you donít teach your readers how to deal with that type of reaction then you canít really talk about the fact those type of reactions are on this set. Nothing personal against you or your material at all, just defending my stand point - Which I Think is fair.

Pete x
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Yup, I certainly do. Nearly half of one book is made up of how to behave, claims, ethics and morals. Four in total have a big section dedicated to it. The rest at least a few pages with examples Smile
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Iím no stranger to giving Ellusionist a hard time over some truly dreadful releases, but I think this looks very cool and represents a nice package of effects for people with likely, more than just a passing interest in learning mind reading (since its $99).

I can hear the criticism already about how its being marketed but if we want fresh blood in the community, which we surely do, we need to attract them and whilst I mean no offence. A 60 year old dude with a billet is not going to excite many....let alone a millenial kid. The issue is, there are very few ways to naturally attract people to mentalism, with very very few mentalists with live shows. Jeez, even some of the old school names donít do many shows for the public! Donít believe me? Think of your fave mentalist who youíve got a teaching dvd of and find evidence of a public show!!! In many cases, you will struggle. So what this release does is helps get the concept of learning mentalism out to the masses and I donít think that is a bad thing personally.

I suspect this will do really well
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