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Mindipulator![]() Regular user Mexico 102 Posts ![]() |
For anyone performing the Dream Lunch routine here is a link you may find useful.
http://www.fakereceipt.us/sales_receipt.php Dale |
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Magic Mark![]() Special user 626 Posts ![]() |
One thing I forgot to mention... In my photos (and in Murphy's videos and photos), the center digit on the receiver (for the White die) appears to be a light blue color. In person, the digit is actually very close to white. It maybe has a slight tinge of blue giving it a little bit of an off-white color. But at a casual glance it just appears to be white. The videos and photos aren't accurate with regard to the color of that center digit.
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Gaz Lawrence![]() Inner circle 4176 Posts ![]() |
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On Dec 14, 2019, Magicalos wrote: I bought mine for £400 from Craig in 2009 and trust me it has paid for itself 40 fold plus , so was the bargain of the last decade for me . I have 5 gigs coming up in the next 3 weeks which will again pay for itself another 3 times . No regrets I smashed this technology early doors and have loved every second of it Gaz 🙂 |
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Robert Houdin 78![]() New user 79 Posts ![]() |
Anverdi Mental Dice looks like the perfect accessory for mentalists and magicians alike. And since you could easily find similar dice at very low cost for giveaways, it might be the perfect prop for clowns too!
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Christian de Punto![]() Regular user Germany 138 Posts ![]() |
I don´t think it matters most from which company and how whatever the dices are... the most important is, that you create a routine in which they are nothing more than a very normal and unsuspicious way to create random numbers. as soon the audiance sees, that they give different results with different runs, the heat is of. after three "test throws", every spectator accepts that nobody can know which numbers the dice show.
in my opinion, simply naming the results at this point is wrong and un-magical. rather, a routine must follow in which the magician uses his advantage in knowledge. |
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Gaz Lawrence![]() Inner circle 4176 Posts ![]() |
I agree with the above post 100% Gaz 🙂
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videoman![]() Inner circle 4907 Posts ![]() |
I really like Mark's cup and dice routine and had planned on doing something very similar so I will add another kicker folks can either use or not.
Show a folded note at the outset and say that this will come into play shortly, then place it into your pocket or drop it into a 4th plastic cup, or leave it in full view. If you have a Vision Box or anything similar then you use that if you like. Then perform Mark’s routine as per his description. Finally, for the unexpected kicker call attention to the folded paper (which by now everyone will have forgotten about) and unfold it to show a single number, which won’t have any immediate connection to what has just happened but you quickly point out that the total of the 3 dice add up to this number and if a even a single die had landed differently it would have created a completely different total. Because this folded paper was shown before the whole thing even began it should add an additional layer of mystery. There are many ways to accomplish this from swami gimmicks to double writing to indexes so I’ll leave it to you to determine “your favorite method” should you care to add this extra kicker, which isn’t necessary at all but I have a fondness for an extra kicker and others may also. Especially in this case where you are repeating the effects 3 times so everyone knows what to expect and can see it coming so it’s nice to throw in an unexpected curveball at the end. Also, instead of having the spectator handle each die and cup the same, I would probably mix it up a bit and perhaps have them turn over the 1st cup quickly without seeing the die, the 2nd they turn the cup quickly but then peek at the die, the 3rd time they place whichever number they like facing up and cover it with the cup. IMO doing things slightly differently each time just leads them further down the garden path. Or feel free to ignore this post completely which is perfectly fine too because these dice are capable of dong so many great things regardless. |
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mikenewman Inner circle Maryland, home of the TAXED 1091 Posts ![]() |
Why would we ignore your post?
This is awesome!!! In that you’re adding (pun!!) to and thinking of ways to improve or add to. This is why I love and appreciate the Café. If we don’t think your idea will work for us, it’s ok too. Thank you for contributing. Keep the magic going!!! |
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Bluether Magic![]() New user China 5 Posts ![]() |
Just received mine today. I tested its signal and it have further distance than Promystic’s.
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Gaz Lawrence![]() Inner circle 4176 Posts ![]() |
I agree Videoman and kickers are great but I respectfully disagree that if a single die had landed differently it would create a totally different total ?
Take a total of 9 for just one example , 621 , 531, 522 , 432 , 414 , 333 so one different die doesn’t mean the total figure will be different unless I am being very Blonde as usual so forgive me if that’s the case Gaz 🙂 |
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Ypnoze![]() Veteran user 394 Posts ![]() |
If a single die land differently, the total is different, if two dies land differently, the result could be the same
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Gaz Lawrence![]() Inner circle 4176 Posts ![]() |
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On Dec 14, 2019, Bluether Magic wrote: You definitely will not from the original Promystic real die ( moulded in battery version ) unless you can beat 100ft including going through 2 to 3 walls Gaz 🙂 |
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videoman![]() Inner circle 4907 Posts ![]() |
Ha, yeah Mike, don’t ignore me!
I only made that half-joking comment because I was just spit balling and have never actually performed it, I wasn’t sure I explained it that well, and I wasn’t sure I even liked it myself. So just throwing it out there and if you like it then use it. But pretty sure that’s the direction I will go in once I get the details worked out. But I have to check out that lunch routine too, it sounds pretty awesome. |
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Gaz Lawrence![]() Inner circle 4176 Posts ![]() |
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On Dec 14, 2019, Ypnoze wrote: I disagree if you are making a bold statement that the total will be 9 there are lots of combinations of this . To me that’s not a kicker the first reveal is infact stronger . If you said they will total 9 consisting of a red 2 , a blue 4 and a black 3 then that is a kicker imo Gaz 🙂 |
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videoman![]() Inner circle 4907 Posts ![]() |
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On Dec 14, 2019, Gaz Lawrence wrote: Not everything we as magicians say is absolutely true as I’m sure you are well aware Gaz. It just has to sound plausible enough that our suckers, oops, I mean spectators, will buy it. 🤥 |
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Ypnoze![]() Veteran user 394 Posts ![]() |
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On Dec 14, 2019, Gaz Lawrence wrote: I'm not judging if the kicker is strong or not, I'm just saying that the statement that if one die had landed differently, the result would be different is correct |
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Gaz Lawrence![]() Inner circle 4176 Posts ![]() |
I do agree with you Videoman but I am sure there is a much stronger kicker to be had if you are going to all the trouble of switching in a prediction that’s all Gaz 🙂
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Gaz Lawrence![]() Inner circle 4176 Posts ![]() |
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On Dec 14, 2019, Ypnoze wrote: Yes you are quite right , however I think you know the point I am making . It’s implied that there was only one chance of reaching that total but it’s obvious there are many permutations . I’m sure it would fly but I can think of better ways of leading them down the garden path and then smashing them over the head with a really big finish Gaz 🙂 |
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Magic Mark![]() Special user 626 Posts ![]() |
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On Dec 14, 2019, videoman wrote: That statement is most definitely true! ![]() For the right crowd in the right situation, I could see myself saying something like... "I had to dig through all of my kid's board games to find dice that were different colors." ![]() Mark |
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videoman![]() Inner circle 4907 Posts ![]() |
The tangents that folks can go off on, it astonishes me sometimes. Some people just like to muddy the waters arguing semantics while missing the larger point entirely.
I was trying to take the excellent idea that Mark shared and try to move it forward. It wasn’t intended to start a poll about who liked it or didn’t. The idea was for others to take the ball and run with it and share their thoughts. Simply saying there are loads of stronger things doesn’t help anyone if you don’t elaborate. But I think again you are missing the point Gaz, that this total is written before any dice are rolled. It’s reason for existence is to further help alleviate any thoughts that you could be receiving a signal from the dice in the unlikely event that anyone were to think that. The fact that there are different ways to reach that same total doesn’t make much difference IMO, but if you think it does then you could also include red-2, blue-6, etc. which you kind of suggested unintentionally. But no matter now anyway, the moment has passed. |
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