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1KJ Inner circle Warning: We will run out of new tricks in 4388 Posts 
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I took the plunge on this one. I like that they are regular looking dice. It concerns me a bit that the dice won't last forever and I can't replace the batteries. Hopefully I get many years out of it.
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lucavolpe Inner circle Italy - London 3349 Posts
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Just performed this tonight at the new years eve show... fantastic... no problem at all, I kept on all night and worked like a charm. I already got my money back! Reactions where great!
Luca Volpe
"The Italian Mentalist" https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/lucavolpe http://www.lucavolpe.com |
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1KJ Inner circle Warning: We will run out of new tricks in 4388 Posts
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Thanks for this encouraging post. I am confident that I will get my money's worth.
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TStone V.I.P. Stockholm, Sweden 774 Posts
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I find the naming of this a bit odd.
The routine I would use for Anverdi's "Mental Dice" can't be performed with this release, as it a parlor routine that relies on having a parlor sized die. But if Murphys eventually decide that there is a demand high enough to release Anverdi's "Mental Dice" (the real one)... then what are they going to title it, to separate from the new mis-labled release? They can't likely use the item's real and actual title, as that would confuse those who want the mis-labeled release. So they would have to come up for a new title on the original. All that mess, just to pull a fast one on Marc Antoine. |
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts
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Out of interest, why is it a fast one? Surely Antoine is using the title without permission if the anverdi original was called mental dice?
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TStone V.I.P. Stockholm, Sweden 774 Posts
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On Jan 1, 2020, IAIN wrote: If they've had the rights to Anverdi's works since 9 years back, there would be loads of more interesting items to introduce the new line with. The Surprise Box, the bottles, the various liquid effects... Yet, they pick a moderately uninteresting item. But instead of actually producing it according to Anverdi's original, in parlor size, they instead duplicate Antoine's evolution of the piece, and then pretend like that isn't exactly what they've done. And the timing for it is when they can't get Antoine's evolution to the price they want. If routines created for Anverdi's Mental Dice can't be performed with Murphy's release, then is it really Anverdi's Mental Dice? Nope. So what's next? I would like to see The Surprise Box becoming available again. But based on this, we can assume they will not produce it until someone else first comes up with an evolution to it, and then they will rip that off, instead of doing the development work themselves. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts
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It does seem bizarre that both items of a very similar nature have the same name .
That for one doesn’t seem right and it’s also very confusing for us all Gaz 🙂 |
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Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts
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On Jan 1, 2020, TStone wrote: One can convert any small (16 to 25mm) electronic die used for magic into a parlor size Die. Or into a Cube (number/color/ESP/Photo vision). HOW? . . . . It's simple!! 
Place the recently released 16mm "Mental Dice" by Anverdi in a hollow cube of your choice (i.e. size & material) by using foam type double sided tape. Or embed the Mental Die in foam/sponge . . . and Waala . . . you have a Parlor size die . . . . not just one, but . . . . THREE!! 
IMO the best cubes for such purpose are the Acrylic ones - the 2/3.5/4inch photo cube. Enjoy! 
P.S. And HERE is a dice I made almost 9 years ago (using different technology).
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TStone V.I.P. Stockholm, Sweden 774 Posts
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On Jan 1, 2020, Ustaad wrote: Or you could build it from scratch. So what's the point of this release? |
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts
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I think they've picked the right item for the market. Dice are popular but high end prices. If the name used originated by Anvendi, then the title belongs to him. Anyone using the name otherwise is riding the association, surely?
And the change to regular dice is a logical thing too. Society has changed, what was once accepted "just because" is no longer quite the same. Can that be seen as progression? The Antoine one, is using the Anvendi name, uses a weird wooden box and you have to send them back too (from what I gather).
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TStone V.I.P. Stockholm, Sweden 774 Posts
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On Jan 1, 2020, IAIN wrote: When other people come up with evolutions on old items, they don't usually claim it is the old item, unless something shady is going on. When Larry Jennings published "Ambidxterous Travellers", he did it under his own name and with his own title. He didn't claim "This is the Dai Vernon original!" This is comparable with: They saw a modern Rolls Royce, duplicated it with all the modern finesses, and then claim it to be the old Ford Model T to avoid criticism for nicking Rolls Royce's work. |
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ArtIn Inner circle 1702 Posts
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On Dec 31, 2019, Magic Mark wrote: “Marc Antoine made some improvements to his Mental Dice a little bit BEFORE Murphy's released their version.“ This is not correct. Marc Antoines version was released more than a year before the Anverdi Dice. He released his Mental Dice with Murphys btw.... His version was the first which used 3 dice simultaneously. |
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ArtIn Inner circle 1702 Posts
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On Jan 1, 2020, TStone wrote: You are totally right. It’s a real shame how they have handled Marc Antoine. |
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ArtIn Inner circle 1702 Posts
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On Jan 1, 2020, IAIN wrote: It’s a privilege: you can send Marc Antoines dice back and exchange them for new ones after around 5 years of usage or when they are empty. When this happens with the anverdi dice you can throw them away. I still doubt Murphys will give you new ones after they’ve lost their power. |
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JanForster Inner circle Germany ... when not traveling... 4192 Posts
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I still do not get the point why the size is of any importance... but probably I do not think enough like a magician...
 Jan
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts
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I don't have the Antoine set, there seems to be several differences physically and mechanically...
Who is upset with you who and why please?
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Steven Conner Inner circle 2720 Posts
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Does anyone know if the Anverdi receiver works with Promystic products
Steve
"The New York Papers," Mark Twain once said,"have long known that no large question is ever really settled until I have been consulted; it is the way they feel about it, and they show it by always sending to me when they get uneasy. "
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George Hunter Inner circle 2017 Posts
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The ProMystic receiver and the Murphy receiver are too different to be at all compatible or interchangeable.
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Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 4191 Posts
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Whilst we are talking lineage it’s worth mentioning that eStooge released their 3 different colour dice version with visual display on a watch, magnet detection and a thumper shortly before Marc Antoine released his. Theirs were called mystic cube rather than Mental dice. Also the quality of their initial version was not on a par with either Marc’s or Murphy’s.
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ArtIn Inner circle 1702 Posts
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On Jan 2, 2020, Mark_Chandaue wrote: Did you own or saw their version? Now it’s called GoDice and is available to the masses. estooge is the worst company that could happen to our art... |
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