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Rooster New user 84 Posts 
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Been playing with the gimmick today, it’s a great bit of kit. If you’re experiencing the “snap” from the closing of the gimmick on certain vanishes/changes, a lot of the time it is down to the execution of the vanish. If you’re making jolting/sharp movements with your hands you will probs get a “snap”(along with a possible flash of the gimmick). By dragging the gimmick in the correct positions you will negate a lot of the “snap”.
Anyways my review shall be up on Friday(search Roo’s Reviews on Youtube). |
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itsmagic Inner circle middle earth 1117 Posts
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From the trailer, this is recommended for night time or darker environment venues?
I wonder why the audience doesn't recognize the discrepancy when the magician is holding a black phone when the spectator's phone is white, gold, or any other color than black? How is this addressed in the tutorial? |
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DavidKenney Inner circle 2178 Posts
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Tobias explains how to get around the phone color issue, but to be honest ... they never see the opposite side until it's over. Most screens today are edge to edge and they just arent paying attention and for all they know you might have the same color as they do ....
here is my review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V_ox1wpZMI |
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Illucifer Inner circle 1403 Posts
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Rooster, fast or slow, mine snaps just as loudly. I’ll have to play around with ways to deaden the sound.
It's all in the reflexes.
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Rooster New user 84 Posts
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On Jan 28, 2020, Illucifer wrote: Fair enough, I found that slowing the vanishes down and guiding with the thumb stopped the snap on one vanish and made it quieter on the others |
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cardbiker Inner circle 1484 Posts
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Anyone want one in the Uk mine is for sale as new £40 inc p&p
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Tyler Lunsford Regular user USA 131 Posts
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Hey there!
I just posted a review of Optix as well! You can watch it below 
https://youtu.be/ukw03J2TOLk Hope it’s helpful! Tyler |
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ash2arani Special user 923 Posts
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The phone color issue is a discrepancy. The performer is holding the "spectator's phone", with flashlight, and yet, they see black even if their phone is white/gold/etc...
The phone they are holding is not an issue, but the one that vanishes. Provided the effect happens too fast with flashlight blinding a bit, but the actual footage is on the spectator's phone and on scrutinized viewing will tip parts of the method. Just something to think about when routining it. |
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Havens Veteran user UK 340 Posts
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On Jan 29, 2020, ash2arani wrote: I really don't think this is an issue and I doubt people will notice - for example no one questions that Tobias switches on the flash light when the phone is in camera mode, which isn't possible on the iPhone at least. The flash light also covers so much and is so bright it feels like the phone is in shadow. |
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The Unmasked Magician Inner circle If only I didn't have a wife and a kid I would have MUCH more than 2711 Posts
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One thing that strikes me is that I haven’t heard from anyone yet who actually tried it on an audience. Probably due to the fact it takes some practice first? But usually those stories pop up quickly. Looking forward to hear how it plays in the real world.
Please check regularly if you are becoming the type of magician Jerry Seinfeld jokes about. (This applies to mentalists as well.)
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catweazle Special user 924 Posts
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See the review from Tyler a few posts up, here's the link https://youtu.be/ukw03J2TOLk
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The Unmasked Magician Inner circle If only I didn't have a wife and a kid I would have MUCH more than 2711 Posts
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Thanks, catweazle.
Please check regularly if you are becoming the type of magician Jerry Seinfeld jokes about. (This applies to mentalists as well.)
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MR Effecto Inner circle 2835 Posts
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Cant wait I should have this by Thursday.
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bosami Regular user 172 Posts
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In theory, one could (prior to purchasing the effect) experiment performing the steps involved in this effect with a spectator using a different premise. IE: (Borrow their phone, false switch their phone with yours, activate video, return their phone...etc) Just to see how easy it is/will be to hand them back their own phone. You wouldn't necessarily have a 'vanish' after that, but you could move into something else at that point. Before dropping the $$$ you would at least see how practical it is and how comfortable you are with the method leading up to the vanish. Essentially the trick is done once they have their phone back and are shooting the video.
...forever curious
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TuneHV Inner circle New York 2067 Posts
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On Jan 29, 2020, bosami wrote: The gimmick allows for a great retention of vision of "their" phone while the apparent switch occurs - you would not be able to replicate that without it, so I don't see that being an equal test. |
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bosami Regular user 172 Posts
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On Jan 29, 2020, TuneHV wrote: Ah. Well, I didn't say it would be an equal test. It would require misdirection, and perhaps you may not need that with the actual effect. (Something we magi should have plenty of experience with, however.) The reviews I've watched indicate that there is a bit of 'boldness' required and you need to trust that when you're handing back their phone they believe it is your phone. To me, executing this is going to be the deciding factor on whether or not people actually use this. But it is good to know that there is the retention of vision piece, so thank you.
...forever curious
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Havens Veteran user UK 340 Posts
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On Jan 29, 2020, bosami wrote: The gimmick makes this move relatively easy - when practicing in the mirror I can barely see the switch myself - the gimmick and light are literally all the cover you need. You could certainly practice the move though, the main thing to bear in mind is not flashing the back of the spec's phone when you take it out of your inside coat pocket. I also do this with a shirt like Tobias does in the trailer and surprisingly this looks completely natural. |
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bosami Regular user 172 Posts
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On Jan 29, 2020, Havens wrote: This is great. Thank you. I'm really on the fence here, but may not be for long.
...forever curious
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts
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On Jan 29, 2020, bosami wrote: The boldness is the psychological block the performer needs to overcome within their own heads. Intuitively it would feel very blatantly obvious in the "there's no way that they do not notice the discrepancy here!" but in practice, it actually completely flies over their heads that there is a glaring discrepancy (glaring as in the worse case scenario is when let's say their phone is a white phone, etc.). Choreography and in terms of sleight of hand, none of this is particularly difficult. If you become very self conscious and thus translates to how you are handling everything, then you will likely draw attention to the discrepancy for which there's a large risk of them catching you out on it, thus handling this with confidence is paramount. |
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Havens Veteran user UK 340 Posts
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It's amazing how little people know about their own phone. They probably have no idea about the size of the lens or flash light position, or as I mentioned above that the flash light doesn't actually switch on in photo mode. There's also another subtlety that the spec believes the flash is on and is following this but when you pull your phone out (their phone) the flash is off which further convinces them it's a different phone. It really is brilliant.
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