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bobinsdakota
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Hello everyone,
As you can tell by the number of my posts, I'm quite new at all of this.
I want to buy my first Invisible Deck and would like to know where would you get it from if you were buying one?
Thank you
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AFTER you buy your first Invisible Deck, (I would suggest from Madhatter Magic Shop - https://madhattermagicshop.com/magicshop......s_id=385 ),learn to perform with it (magic IS a performance art) and start to enjoy it, you might then be ready to consider more advanced ways to use the concepts just as Wiz Kid Qua-Fiki did in 2012 when he was age 17:
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This is such a great trick. But, as Jim says above, you’ve got to learn to perform it, not just operate it.

To answer your question, if I were buying one now, I would send you first to a local magic shop if you can find one. It is worth the drive to see the demo, get someone to walk you through it, and maybe suggest how to present it. Really.

If that’s not feasible, I’ve been well treated by all of the following shops

https://madhattermagicshop.com/magicshop......ucts_id=

https://themagicwarehouse.com/cgi-bin/fi......NVISIBLE

http://williamsmagic.com/shop/index.php?......id=19830

https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic/......le-deck/

If you are looking only for the best price, remember to compare shipping, too.

Patrick
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Thank you Jim & Patrick,
I want to support the magic shops but when shipping is almost 2x the cost of the item it's tough to do.
I find it hard to believe that it would cost almost $8.00 to ship a deck of cards!
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You could always make your own. There are a lot of options out there. The first thing to remember is that I haven't met one person who has bought an invisible deck from China who has been happy. It will cost a little more, however, Haines House of Cards in Cincinnati, Ohio has great roughed cards.
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An alternative is to buy a deck of cards locally along with the ingredient needed to turn it into an Invisible Deck aka Ultra-Mental Deck.
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FYI, although Williams has the higher price, they ship free in the US. That’s part of why I suggested comparing costs including shipping.

And if you use the search function, it isn’t hard to find threads about how to rough cards. I’m sure there’s good value in the ebooks Jim sells, but you don’t need to pay to know what roughing spray is.

Patrick
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Thank you everybody, this forum has been helpful and informative.
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While there is an investment of a trip to Michael's and about $10 for the paint, I have found that I can refresh an invisible deck and/or make new invisible decks with Krylon Matte Finish 1311. The reason I like this stuff is that it's good for most any other sort of trick deck that relies on "rough" cards. Plus, I can make my own with any random deck. I do about 2-3 coats, testing after each coat dries. Try to keep each coat even and do light coats until you get the hang of it. You want to do this with cards that are strong enough not to curl. Each can will do a bunch of decks.
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Thank you "notasperfectasyou" I may have to try that. It sounds like a great cheaper solution. I know most small business' can't offer free shipping but an item like a deck of cards is tough to purchase by itself with the added cost. That's not a knock on the business....
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On Jan 22, 2020, bobinsdakota wrote:
Thank you "notasperfectasyou" I may have to try that. It sounds like a great cheaper solution. I know most small business' can't offer free shipping but an item like a deck of cards is tough to purchase by itself with the added cost. That's not a knock on the business....


You are welcome. For me, this was a really good investment because I learned how to make my own "rough" cards that I have now started using in other tricks. Plus it also means you can buy some other special deck, like a marked deck, and add the "rough" to it on your own, thus creating a new kind of deck that you wouldn't be able to buy, but not has more versatility to it. Good Luck.

PS - I should have added that the Krylon is a clear spray paint.
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Making your own is certainly an option, but this is your FIRST invisible deck. I suggest buying 1 and learning to use it for now.

In the future if you want to make 1, and if you don't want to deal with the mess and smell of the Krylon 1311/Testors Dull Cote, I highly recommend the Roughing Stick.
https://youtu.be/xTAd-COAX74

Same with the spray, a light application is all that's needed.
The stick doesn't feel exactly like the spray, but I find the stick easier to use, and you can control which parts of the cards get treated.
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Yin_howe,
Thank for that video, it was really informative and useful. I did end up buying an Invisible Deck and absolutely love it.
I'll definitely be making a few to have on hand.
Bob
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You're welcome Bob.
The R&S principle is used not just for the ID.
As you learn more and grow in Magic you WILL find more uses for it.
"Talent without passion is talent wasted.."
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