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Clifford the Red Inner circle LA, California 1941 Posts |
Wondering if any of you wonderful wizards has a source for one-up tarot cards? I need several of a face and don't relish the thought of buying a dozen packs just to strip out these cards.
"The universe is full of magical things, waiting for our wits to grow sharper." Eden Philpotts
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Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
If you have a computer (which you have; that's obvious) and a scanner and printer (which is less obvious), simply scan in the desired card or cards and print them out.
I've done a whole one-way deck this way. |
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enriqueenriquez Inner circle New York 1287 Posts |
Blackhart offers some Tarot forcing decks which consist of just one card repeated. Maybe that helps.
Or maybe you could contact Blackhart and ask him. |
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7th_Son Elite user Australia 437 Posts |
Perhaps you could contact the tarot card manufacturer and ask if you can buy some?
I've been able to buy empty tarot card boxes, so you should be able to buy single tarot cards.
"Here's to our wives and girlfriends...may they never meet!" - Groucho Marx
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mystic1 Veteran user 342 Posts |
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Peter Marucci wrote: So much for copyright prohibitions, eh? |
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StrangeMagick Special user 635 Posts |
Mystic1:
>> So much for copyright prohibitions, eh? I believe that the Rider-Waite Tarot can be freely copied, as long as the copyright information is presented. I can't locate my source for this information ... maybe someone else can help. I believe this is why the Rider-Waite Tarot images appear so often on web sites. Dave |
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Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
About my suggestion to scan one of the Tarot cards, Mystic1 writes: "So much for copyright prohibitions, eh?"
The Rider-Waite deck is in the public domain and has NO copyright prohibitions on it. Please check your facts before flaming someone! |
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enriqueenriquez Inner circle New York 1287 Posts |
This is off-subject, but I performed for a woman who is selling the original Rider-Waite Artwork.
I’m trying to arrange a visit to see it! |
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Nickelsun New user 7 Posts |
Could be a problem buying individuals from the manufacturer. I'm assuming that tarot are produced in the same way as playing cards, in which case an entire deck is printed onto a single sheet of card and is then cut, using some very clever engineering, into the individual cards.
I've actually got one of these single sheets. They make an interesting talking point. cheers Nickelsun
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Clifford the Red Inner circle LA, California 1941 Posts |
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On 2004-06-02 07:57, Peter Marucci wrote: I didn't consider that a "flame". I had that thought as well. I didn't know RW was in the public domain; that is good to know. Unfortunately, these cards will be used in conjunction with an actual deck so the differences in print and card stock would be plainly noticeable. And if you suggest to print an entire deck on my printer, I will have to add you to my list of potential sacrifices to to the demon Cthulhu.
"The universe is full of magical things, waiting for our wits to grow sharper." Eden Philpotts
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Moonlit Knight Regular user U.S. 113 Posts |
Peter Marucci, I’ve used the scan and print method for making duplicate cards, however I’ve been unable to find the correct card stock. Even when I’ve used 110 lb. stock and lacquer spray-coated the cards, they seem a bit flimsy. Any suggestions - without having to print front and back on separate sheets and mounting them together or mounting them onto other cards?
B.T.W. Clifford the Red, I’ve printed a few decks with my printer.
"Join the dance... Follow on! With a twist of the world we go."
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Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
Moonlit,
You could try printing them on thin paper and then pasting them (with rubber cement, to stop wrinkling) to blank-faced cards. Or you could print directly onto the BF cards after removing the coating. The problem there is you have to put the coating back on after they are printed. (BTW, an aside to Clifford the Red: I considered that a shot, if not a flame. After all, it only takes a few seconds to check out copyright restictions on Google and that should have been done before any criticism was posted!) Or you could get BF cards that don't have the coating on them in the first place (you can get BF decks for flash cards at school-supply toy stores); the problem there is that the backs are offbeat. Or you could get BF Tarot cards (they are available but they take a little tracing down); they can be printed on directly. |
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Moonlit Knight Regular user U.S. 113 Posts |
Thanks Peter, I’ve gotten a few BF Tarot cards with some decks I’ve purchased, but never thought of BF decks of flash cards. I’ll look into that. Thanks again!
"Join the dance... Follow on! With a twist of the world we go."
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sgrossberg Special user Southern California 739 Posts |
For some interesting information, take a look at "The Rider-Waite-Smith Tarot Card Copyright FAQ" - http://www.sacred-texts.com/tarot/faq.htm#usgamesclaim
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Moonlit Knight Regular user U.S. 113 Posts |
By the way, I used my own artwork for the decks I've made. I just can’t get the feel of drawing with a mouse, so I've scanned in my work. Yes, it's more work, but hey— no copyright problems and they look the way I want them to.
The duplicate cards I've made were and are made to be destroyed within the performance. We all must make “sacrifices” for our craft.
"Join the dance... Follow on! With a twist of the world we go."
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7th_Son Elite user Australia 437 Posts |
Here's a link to high-res artwork for a complete tarot deck (Vacchetta Deck).
This deck looks very old. I suspect that there's no copyright for something that's 100+ years old, but I could be wrong. Enjoy! http://altreligion.about.com/library/weekly/aa082003a.htm
"Here's to our wives and girlfriends...may they never meet!" - Groucho Marx
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Clifford the Red Inner circle LA, California 1941 Posts |
Thanks Sgrossberg -
According to US Games Rider-Waite Tarot Ownership "The copyright owner is J. D. Semken, the surviving executor of W. R. Semken who died in July 1970. He was one of two ultimate residuary legatees under the will of Arthur Edward Waite, who died on 19 May 1942. After the death on 15 September 1980 of Miss A. S. M. Waite, the tenant for life, the Public Trustee, in winding up the Waite estate, assigned to W.R. Semken and J. D. Semken "all the copyright and rights in the nature of copyright in the works of Arthur Edward Waite comprised in his estate". "Random House: Publish the cards under an exclusive license from the copyright owner. (They do have the documentary and contract evidence to prove the position) "US Games: Effectively a sub-licensee of Random House and holder of Rider-Waite trademarks throughout the world. "The Rider-Waite Tarot cards are subject to UK copyright laws because the works were first published in the UK. The copyright term is 70 years from date of death of the author. "The Rider-Waite Tarot works (cards and books) have 70 years from date of death of the author. A. E. Waite commissioned the drawings from Pamela Colman-Smith and under the old UK Act the copyright owner is the person who commissions the drawings. Therefore, copyright will expire 70 years from A. E. Waite's date of death. He died in 1942 so copyright will expire in 2012." THE UNITED STATES "Is a member of, amongst others treaties, the Geneva Convention and the UCC. Therefore, in the US the Rider-Waite Tarot cards will be treated as if they were a work of US origin. The standard US term of copyright is life plus 70 years. "This would then mean that in the US the copyright on the Rider-Waite Tarot only falls into the public domain in 2012." So not public domain actually according to this interpretation of the laws. And even when it goes to public domain in 8 years, Random House still holds the Trademarks.
"The universe is full of magical things, waiting for our wits to grow sharper." Eden Philpotts
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Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
One of the reasons there are so many lawyers, I suppose, is interpretation:
"Q. What is the US copyright status of a work published in 1909? A. Any work published prior to 1922, regardless of the country of publication, the citizenship of the author, whether it was registered or not, is in the public domain in the United States. No further copyright claims can be made on that work, and any attempt to prosecute someone for use of that work would be thrown out of a copyright court. Works published in the US today have a copyright term of life + 70. This is not retroactive, so US books previously in the public domain in the US did not get their copyrights restored when the new term of copyright was enacted." That is from a Google search of Tarot copyrights. |
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Black Hart Elite user Scottish Highlands 475 Posts |
Wondering if any of you wonderful wizards has a source for one-up tarot cards? I need several of a face and don't relish the thought of buying a dozen packs just to strip out these cards.
Yup, that is why we dealers have to charge a reasonable amount for our products...we have to buy dozens and dozens of packs of Tarot cards to make up the effects we sell to you. As far as I am aware (and believe me I've tried) none of the manufacturers sell single Tarot cards. If they did sell one of a kind you would have to buy them in bulk in any case! Black Hart
Black Artefacts, manufacturer and dealer of weird, bizarre and psychic magic: www.blackhart.co.uk
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Caspar Veteran user Tacoma 316 Posts |
I don't know, but it seems to me if the demand were there, a manufacturer would at least be willing to explore the idea. Take the Black Deck for instance. If a manufacturer could be convinced of a profit I am sure they will print anything to make a buck.
Until then, used bookstores carry used Tarot decks. |
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