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bluejay17! Regular user DC 120 Posts |
I was wondering if anyone knows of a really simple false cut. I want something that looks like I'm just setting the bottom half on top. I do mentalism, so nothing that looks overly skilled.
-J |
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Poof-Daddy Inner circle Considering Stopping At Exactly 5313 Posts |
Not sure who to credit but pull the bottom half out and tap it (like a square up) on the top half that is still in dealers grip, then set the bottom half on the table. set the rest (top half) on just a little askew and square up with fingers and thumbs. If done very casually, it will go over every time. Eye contact and/or speaking (asking a question or stating something pertinent) as a form of misdirection helps too.
If you do not mind a very casual and simple 3 packet cut, the Jay Ose false cut is a beautifully deceptive false cut.
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drumdemon420 Veteran user 396 Posts |
The scrape cut fits the bill. Simple and deceptive if done well.
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Churken2 New user 67 Posts |
Jay Ose False Cut is extremely simple and flies by lay people.
There are several good ones in Card College Vol. 1 |
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Topper2 Regular user 126 Posts |
Keeping things really simple, if you are standing up without a table to cut onto, you lay the cards flat on your left palm so they lie over towards the wrist end of the palm, then you cut with the right hand and place the packet to the right of the bottom half, i.e. so it lies on the LH fingers, finally you pick up the LH packet but instead of placing it on top of the right hand packet you simply reconstruct the deck by placing it underneath. Misdirection is used by pattering while you do it so the spectators don't concentrate on what you've done.
An alternative, if you are cutting onto a table, is to swing cut the top half into the left hand as you appear to cut the pack so that in reality you put down what had been the lower half and then finish off the cut by putting the original top half back on top again. Another alternative of this is to do a sort of Hermann pass as you go to cut the pack so really you are taking the bottom half when it looks as though you've taken the top half. Finally a good but very easy triple cut onto the table. Whilst holding the deck in the LH, cut about a third off the deck and place it onto the table, then (holding the bulk of the pack in the RH in a sort of Biddle grip) place the bulk of the pack to the right of this packet but only lay down the bottom half of the packet, the top half you place between the the two packets you've already put down, this gives you three piles of cards in a row. Now to reconstruct the deck you place the RH packet on top of the LH packet and finally replace what had been the middle packet back on top of the LH packet. There are many other possible cuts (the one given by Poof-Daddy above is good too by the way!) but I hope the above makes sense even though the explanations are very brief (and not very good!). |
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ddyment Inner circle Gibsons, BC, Canada 2499 Posts |
I am also a mentalist. For many years I have both used and recommended fellow Canadian Mel Stover's elegant (and easily executed) "Winnipeg False Cut".
The best description can be found in Frank Garcia's 1972 book, "Million Dollar Card Secrets", pp. 93-94. It is also explained in Roberto Giobbi's Card College, Volume 1 (1995), page 57, as "An Optical False Cut from the Hand". Pay particular attention to the key role of the right forefinger.
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The Burnaby Kid Inner circle St. John's, Canada 3158 Posts |
This is going to sound like I'm trolling, but I'm totally not.
Classic pass as false cut is exactly what you need. It's not easy, but it is simple, and it looks great and unassuming if you can do a decent pass. Again, I swear I'm not trolling. Really. Honest to God. Probably.
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Topper2 Regular user 126 Posts |
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On Feb 24, 2020, The Burnaby Kid wrote: Yes, you're right. I said Hermann pass but I got my terminology in a twist, it should be Classic pass of course. |
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MeetMagicMike Inner circle Gainesville Fl 3501 Posts |
Very few people can do the classic pass imperceptively. But sure, IF you do a flawless classic pass that would be the best possible solution because you would not need to do a false cut. Just do the pass followed by a real cut.
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The Burnaby Kid Inner circle St. John's, Canada 3158 Posts |
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On Feb 25, 2020, MeetMagicMike wrote: Actually, the idea is to allow the action of the classic pass be covered the appearance of a regular cut, rather than using it to nullify a regular cut well after the fact. It can be made to look surprisingly good.
JACK, the Jolly Almanac of Card Knavery, a free card magic resource for beginners.
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Rachmaninov Inner circle 1076 Posts |
Yes but the classic pass false cut has a big tell for most people : the top packet returning to horizontal position is a visible movement. I’ve never seen anyone really overcoming that.
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terrillific Loyal user San Antonio, TX 292 Posts |
Eric Jones showed us a cool one in a lecture that is very deceptive. I've seen John Carey use it as well.
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The Burnaby Kid Inner circle St. John's, Canada 3158 Posts |
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On Feb 25, 2020, Rachmaninov wrote: Can you elaborate on what you mean by this? The whole action is supposed to be a visible movement.
JACK, the Jolly Almanac of Card Knavery, a free card magic resource for beginners.
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Chamberlain Special user 629 Posts |
+1 for the Winnipeg False Cut
My favourite is the Vernon cold deck cut, it can then completed by doing the Erdnase Fancy Blind Cut #1 - probably not suitable for a mentalist to use though as is quite showy |
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MagicByVincent Veteran user Staten Island, New York 329 Posts |
Where can one learn; the Jay Ose false cut, the Winnipeg false cut, or the scrape cut?
Magic is all around us we just have to be willing to see it.
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Chamberlain Special user 629 Posts |
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On Feb 26, 2020, MagicVin wrote: You can see most of them demoed here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMnmN6YZoGE |
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MagicByVincent Veteran user Staten Island, New York 329 Posts |
Thanks Chamberlain! hopefully seeing that can help Bluejay17! pick the one he needs
Magic is all around us we just have to be willing to see it.
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ddyment Inner circle Gibsons, BC, Canada 2499 Posts |
MagicVin asked:
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Where can one learn; the Jay Ose false cut, the Winnipeg false cut, or the scrape cut? I gave two sources for learning the Winnipeg False Cut!
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MagicByVincent Veteran user Staten Island, New York 329 Posts |
You did I know, however I don't own either book + I personally learn much better from video.
Magic is all around us we just have to be willing to see it.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
@50+posts look for the kick cut. For reference... Bobby Bernard
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