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Mindpro Eternal Order 10587 Posts |
I'm curious to know how many of you are hearing from clients who had to postpone their events. Have they yet tried to reschedule? I know many are taking a "wait and see" approach, but this week and last we have been getting many phone calls looking at dates and possibilities of rescheduling, which is a positive sign. Now, of course, these rescheduled dates are still subject to "we'll see how things are as we get closer to the date" understandings. We have had many April and May events reschedule for June-August so far. Even had one school that canceled school for the rest of the year actually reschedule their prom, post-prom and grad night events.
Just curious as to what others are experiencing as far as reschedulings and any new interests or bookings? |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Broadway is closed until June 7th.
Danny Doyle
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10587 Posts |
Many strip properties (casinos/hotels) are currently accepting reservations beginning May 1st.
I expect New York to be behind other parts of the country in coming back. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yep very much so.
Danny Doyle
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Ken Northridge Inner circle Atlantic City, NJ 2392 Posts |
I had a few customers postpone their events until late May. However, the majority seem to have the 'wait and see' attitude. Which frankly I think is wiser. I'm just as hopeful as anyone that Mid-May will be the end, but who knows? We are all in uncharted territory.
Stock market is up today again so far!
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
June earliest but with social distancing. I know they will still be pushing that. Even if lets say social distancing is recommended until fall how will the general public at events act? What will the event planner require? I for one use props but looking more and more to working without them and just doing my entire act without them. Its a challenge of course but just have to be prepared. You get to your postponed event and have to adjust on the fly. There will be a new normal like it or not. Best be ready.
What do you think Danny? Decomposing Preparation
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I think that if you take the "live" out of live entertainment you may as well buy a DVD.
If that happens I will be working on the parts of my life that have nothing to do with entertainment. I doubt people will put up with it. When you look at numbers there is a HUGE concentration of problems in a few spots. The rest of the country is wondering what all the hubbub is bub?. There are hot spots, and it is dangerous. I get all that. But how many places are going to put up with "social distancing" when they have not had large numbers of cases? How many people in Nevada with about 2,500 cases 80 deaths in the state and 27 deaths per million population are going to tolerate such a huge disruption in their lives for long? At some point it reaches a tipping point. At some point the casinos are just not going to tolerate it. It is simple math. People have short memories, and if it does not affect them it is only so long it can be pushed. (I don't know what would happen if that happens. I am not saying anyone is right or wrong. Just observati ons is all.) Eventually Federalism will rear its head. I don't know what the "new normal" will end up being. I really don't.
Danny Doyle
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misterillusion Special user Roseville, California 748 Posts |
Every one of my postponemnts are a "wait and see". I have not had to refund any deposits yet.
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252life Inner circle Ninth Circle, Hades 3243 Posts |
Yup to Danny’s comments.
“Wait and see” here otherwise. Still mostly dead though. (California btw)
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
Only one cancellation. I have hope. Nothing is a guarantee. Advance payment on big gig still on hold. Not spending that money plus Uncle Sam sending me a big check next week. Glad he still has plenty of cash. lol
Just back from Petsmart and Target. Essential trip. Still people with jobs. One day at a time. One business that is doing real well here is the business of crime. No doubt about that. No speed limit for the future race car drivers also. Suggest having a baseball bat by your door just in case.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
You think the government sending money they don't have is a good solution?
I might recommend an econ 101 class to set where that road leads.
Danny Doyle
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
There you are Danny, right on time. I was worried.
I like free paper btw. Hard to find toilet paper. Citizens for Bernie
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
All I am saying is that the managing of this coming out is going to be a critical time for all of us.
My worry is really for the guys working night to night. Once this is over, before the gigs start again how long will they be able to get that "free money"? I mean I worry that companies may very well not have entertainment as they start back up again. Will people have money to go on vacation at all to places like Orlando or Vegas? How fast will New York shed that stigma of such a huge impact zone for this pandemic? Sarcastic jabs aside these are very real issues that a LOT of performers will be dealing with even MORE than if social distancing becomes a thing. Do you lower rates to entice those who may be on the fence? Do you run specials or what? I mean more than anything this is the sort of thing that will drive the re booking process. I mean how does this change ones positioning in their chosen market place? LOTS of questions that nobody seems to even be considering for the long term affects of this. But much better to throw jabs out to be sarcastic. Far more productive for everyone that way.
Danny Doyle
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
No jabs, I agree. There is going to be a lot of uncertainty going forward to say the least. The reset button will be pushed and then the waiting button will be in order.
I still think that this happening after a booming economy was the best time for it. Would have been worse of course if right after 2008 or other bad times. It all seems so surreal. Go to sleep, wake up and seeing this is a "please pinch me" or gobsmacked moment.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
OH it would have been worse!!! Wow yea I never even thought of that, because in reality it is bad enough, but yea. WAY WORSE. Oye even to think about that is uncomfortable right now thanks for the nightmares.
I just wish we could get stories about positive things about the recovered. My sister is a Nurse Practitioner at a hospital there where someone has on a white board that they had X number of patients in ICU, and so many have been downgraded to actual rooms, so many have been discharged, so many are in better condition and NONE have died. I think THIS part of the story is what is NOT being told. Insert you own reasons for this, I don't know why and I don't pretend to know why. But certainly it is not a story being told at all. It is all doom and gloom and pandemic and all that. But yes I am worried many will be in a wait and see posture. But then again so many are not even seeing what is happening in the hot spots other than on TV. It is possible that people will just be sick of being inside. (I now see why my pets bolt for the door at any opportunity after being in the house so long!) Maybe the places less affected will be just ready to get back to life as normal. It happened after 9/11. Outside New York and such it was shocking, but not as much as for them. I am pretty sure this will be the same thing.
Danny Doyle
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thomasR Inner circle 1189 Posts |
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On Apr 9, 2020, Dannydoyle wrote: Universal Orlando announced today they are closed until June 1. You can currently book Disney hotels on June 1, but officially they are “closed until further notice” I’d put $5 down on a Vegas table that no Vegas casino opens May 1. On average I usually leave a casino $0 down and $0 ahead so take that info consideration. (Well.... the casino still wins cause I bought a show ticket and Starbucks.) |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I don't know. Look at how many are infected in Nevada. 80 have died. Not a huge number is it? It is "possible" the heat does something to this virus and that would be good for Nevada residents wouldn't it?
Like I have said somewhere the huge companies I work with worldwide are talking about June. That even looks a bit optimistic to me. Not that I think the virus itself is going to stop that but the panic will definitely play a roll. ALL of the projections have been WAY over and even more over hyped. The thing that will really make this thing turn is when people stand up and say stop it. When they get sick of it. For better or worse that is what it will take. I just hope that IF that happens, it doesn't just cause a worse problem than is been going on.
Danny Doyle
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thomasR Inner circle 1189 Posts |
Well it’s not the Nevada numbers... it’s keeping people from New York, Florida, etc. going “oh look Vegas is open” and then causing an outbreak there. That’s the idea behind closing the entire country isn’t it?
Danny how are things where you are in NJ? The news would make it sound like a war zone there in the nyc area. |
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snm Special user 550 Posts |
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On Apr 9, 2020, Ken Northridge wrote: The massive unprecedented fed action backstopping trillions in bonds is causing a short term adjustment higher, but ultimately we're going back down as the economic reality sinks in. Can't print your way out of the economic destruction of a shock this size. You take the bid out from stock buybacks and you have net outflows, which means the price goes down. |
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Dave Scribner Assistant Manager Lake Hopatcong, NJ 4849 Posts |
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On Apr 9, 2020, thomasR wrote: I don't live too far from Danny. New Jersey is too close to NYC not to be affected but we're in a lot better shape. It all depends on your area. In my township, there have only been 35 cases reports and only 1 death. Starting today, beside the "stay at home" order we are now mandated to wear some type of face mask or cover when going into a store. It was supposed to go into effect tonight, but some stores like grocery stores started it first thing this morning. As luck would have it, just before I entered the store, the elastic strap on my mask broke. A nice lady behind me said we all have to stick together through this and gave me her scarf. The grocery store looked like day one of this pandemic. Everyone was gathering up as much as they could. I will say the shelves in the grocery stores do show signs of recovery. Midday and there's still a lot of paper towels on the shelves. Toilet paper is also readily available if you you're not particular of the brand. We even have hand sanitizer in some of the stores.
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