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Kjellstrom
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Need a review on this effect, sounds very interesting:
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Paul
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Based on Corinda's routine which you can probably find in 13 Steps To Mentalism.

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Alan Munro
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I've seen this and the Corinda routine. Both are great! It gets great laughs and is reliable, unlike the Paperballs Over The Head which really requires a stooge to work consistently.
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I have performed Slydini's Paper Balls over the Head for more years than I care to remember and never required a stooge. Performed properly, Slydini's routine is consistently reliable.

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Yes, it is based on Corinda's Powers of Darkness, but Powers of Darkness is not in 13 Steps. Powers of Darkness is a separate manuscript, which may still be available. Powers of Darkness is in the Digital Pabular along with all the other wonderful contents.

As for Caveney's routine, I have a pamphlet which details it and I would love to make this a regular part of my act. I have never witness Caveney perform it, but I've heard many people say absolutely wonderful things about his performance of it. I would love to see it.

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Hi all,

I'm little bit confused about this trick, is it some mentalism trick or just parlour trick with done by coat hangers because I hear some say that it connected with 13 Step to Mentalism?

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Mike Caveny has really updated Corinda's Power of Darkness.
The use of the bend out of shape coathangers makes more sense these days than the hoop. Many magician's would stay away from the original routine because you expose the hoop as having the gap, which is almost exactly like the key ring in their linking ring set.
The effect is marvelous as you make the hanger penetrate the locked arms of the spectator over and over, each time being more impossible. The spectator on stage is asked to close her eyes and the whole audience is seeing the method. This is the similarity to the Slydini Flight Of The Paper Balls routine.
Caveny also has the routine in his lecture notes "Ideas" and he used to sell the necessary coathangers. Now I understand he sells this complete with a video performance and explanation taped at one of his lectures.
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It's a very good routine. I use it sometimes to open my mentalism act, and the idea is to explain to the audience that perception is everything. You demonstrate that by showing that the helpers on stage will see one thing happen, but all the rest will see something else.

It's a very nice introduction to my act. Thanks, Mr. Caveney...

Hope this helps...

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On 2002-07-23 16:19, Alan Munro wrote:
I've seen this and the Corinda routine. Both are great! It gets great laughs and is reliable, unlike the Paperballs Over The Head which really requires a stooge to work consistently.


Powers of Darkness is a great routine. What disturbs me is the above comment. I am very curious to know if you actually were taught the routine correctly or have done what most do - trying it without really knowing the particulars which is usually the way great pieces are ruined?
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Mikael Eriksson
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A magician collegue performed this to me, and I was blown away! He shared the secret working with me. Some time later I attended a meeting where he performed this again, and I could then watch the spectators reactions. Unfortunately it was a mild reaction, and I know that at least one of the spectators did not understand the point of the trick (those who have this will know what I mean). I hope it was a rare occasion, and that this trick use to receive greater reactions. As a comparison I use to do a similar thing where I blindfold a child and lift her up and put her on a bench or something, and then I guide her to slowly walk forward and do different stunts like standing on one leg etc. I assume you all know how it ends. Strangely, everyone, even the children, seem to understand the point of the trick, and enjoy it.

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Isn't this on Tom Mullica's Impromptu Magic video? Smile
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Do you mean the thing with the blindfold and the child? I have no idea...

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Joe:

I think Alan was referring to a catcher. While not necessary, it could help to have a helper innocently Smile aiding in the background.

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I have the Caveney version, though I actually prefer the original, as I find it easier to transport rings than large coat hangers. I can see the appeal of coathangers to some, but I just prefer the rings.

I know that people often compare this to Paper Balls Over the Head, but I think the resemblance is only superficial (participant alone is fooled -- audience is entertained). I see Paper Balls more as a running gag type of effect, while Powers of Darkness excels as an object lesson in the role of perception... a great mentalism item, for example, and a good fit for corporate audiences. And whereas the former is pretty much self-revealing, it's actually quite difficult for viewers to reconstruct PoD later.

PoD was not Corinda's only contribution to the notion of purely psychological effects, though it's by far his best known (and it's interesting that none of this stuff is in "13 Steps"). I find this sort of thing to be very effective for the right audiences.

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I have POD and love it. I recently saw Mike perform it at Magic In The Rockies convention. Mike purchased the rights to Corinda's effect and added his unique performance enhancements. You get the props, a booklet and a wonderful video including performance and explanation. Having seen Mike perform it, I can attest to the tremendous response it gets. Very much worth the purchase price and then some! PS - For the routine to be reliable, you need to be respectful to your volunteers throughout your entire performance.
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Powers of Darkness by Corinda is available
in the Digital Pabular.
It is not in 13 steps.
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To clear up some of the confusion, let me tell you the effect of Mike Caveney's "The Powers of Darkness Come Out of the Closet." It's real simple: a wire coathanger is caused to penetrate on and off a spectator's arm while his eyes are closed. The audience sees how the trick is done.

The mechanics of the trick are not hard. However, it requires an expert performer to pull it off. In Mike Caveney's hands it's a beautiful piece and it looks so easy. But don't be fooled; this is not for beginners. Even expert performers should expect to put in many hours of rehearsals.

Jim Steinmeyer has published a similar routine in his booklet, "Strange Power & Other Problems for Magicians." In his routine all five senses are being manipulated.
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Just got back to this thread -- didn't see the stuff about the Paper Balls. I haven't performed the paperballs in years because sometimes the acoustics were such that the spectator could hear the tissue landing behind them. I've talked with a well-known performer, in my area, who has also had problems with the routine.
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On 2002-07-23 16:19, Alan Munro wrote:
I've seen this and the Corinda routine. Both are great! It gets great laughs and is reliable, unlike the Paperballs Over The Head which really requires a stooge to work consistently.


Tell that to Tony! Oops, he's dead. Well, try telling any of his students (like me) who have been doing the paper balls for years. I have NEVER used a stooge, and never run into problems with it. You need to pick your performances carefully, and it is really about managing the spectator - not an easy trick to do well - though I would guess I've performed without a hitch several hundred times. Of course I had the benefit of Tonys' tutelage.

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Yes, I agree with the comments!
I love POWER OF DARKNESS - but I think Mike could sell the skript only for less money.
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