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BRIAN Not Brain. Sorry bout that. Smile

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Werev you really THAT wrong? I mean if you do get it wrong "brain" isn't the worst way to misspell it.
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On Jan 2, 2021, TomBoleware wrote:
Pride is the problem, humility is the answer.

Humility need not be viewed as a weakness or a sign of insecurity, it's quite the opposite. I have always said magic needs more team players. We should welcome working magicians like Brain here and not insist their success is wrong because they reached it in a different way.

Tom

Well Brian if you want to spot strawmen I think there are a few in this post you may want to look at.

The problem is indeed pride. YOU Tom can NOT accept there is more than one way to look at things, more than one way to do things. Having NEVER BEEN much more than on the fringes of the business end of magic by your own admission you have to extrapolate this stuff. A little humility of knowing that you don't know the answer would probably go a long way, but that is just what you preach at others isn't it? That is not for the World's Foremost Authority"... you.

Who insisted anyone's success was wrong Tom?

You make up this nonsense NOBODY says AFTER Brian and I decided to take all the heat out of the situation. I said basically hey let's back off and discuss a very important topic so it won't be lost in the usual nonsense. Thomas and YOU come back in just to stir the pot and call names. Look at what Brian did. THE VERY NEXT POST he simply said "fair" and we moved to being PRODUCTIVE. Why? Because he is a PROFESSIONAL in the business. We can disagree agreeably. The TWO GUYS WHO ARE NOT PROFESSIONALS are the two guys who stir the pot. Seriously go back and look at that and tell me this is not what happened Tom. Maybe a little bit of that "humility" would help in this situation so you can admit you are wrong and maybe stop doing it? This is your chance to show us all how humble you can be and admit when you are not doing something right. It could be inspiring for everyone Tom. I won't hold my breath as I think it would be a very long time before you or Thomas ever admitted doing this but I will HAPPILY admit I am wrong if either of you does. It is not a sign of weakness Tom or Thomas. It is quite the opposite.

How is it being a "team player" when you act like this Tom? Really I ask this seriously. This was YOU and THOMAS putting the heat back in the situation when Brian and I simply wanted to remove it and took steps to do just that. How is it helpful?

I know you will have a zillion excuses and all that is fine. But in reality Brian and I were speaking to each other and Thomas and you jump in just to stir up nonsense because you are hurt from previous posts and want to get in as many digs as possible so you jump in. Neither of you are working magicians prior to or after the pandemic but want to jump in with advice or bs just because you want to.
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You right we are just a nobody.

Really Danny, do you have to be a jerk all the time. Can you even act like a real person?
I don’t think you can. I agree with Thomas that it is sad you are like this.

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Yea humility is for others and not the great Tom Boleware!

OTHERS must examine themselves, NOT The World's Foremost Authority!

You brought this Tom. Brian and I moved on. YOU acted like a child and could not let it go. This is 100% you and Thomas who have brought this here. Brian is 100% professional. Again the irony is two guys not in the business dragging down another thread. This is about the two of you and personal animosity and pushing a personal agenda. Show some humility and admit it and move on like Brian and I did. WE did that BEFORE YOU SAID ANYTHING!

Try humility Tom. Take your own advice here. It might lift you up in the eyes of others.

Did you read where I actually said I WAS WRONG? Hmmmm. Have YOU EVER DONE THAT HERE? Try humility Tom. It does a soul good
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LOL

Danny this topic is about online performing and you have ZERO experience in the subject, So all your rambling on and on about how you are a ‘Professional’ and that I am not has nothing to do with the topic here. Truth is you are not a ‘Professional’ and the reason I know that is, you don’t act like one. A real professional doesn’t call adults who they disagree with children and act the way you do. A real ‘professional’ cares about how others see them. A real ‘professional’ doesn’t act like a jerk. Your shouting ‘look at me, I’m the smartest person here’ means nothing. It just shows how un-professional you are. If you really want to be a professional you need to start acting like one. Look at the other professionals here, you don’t see a single one of them ranting and raving the way you do. You know why? Because they are ‘Real Professionals’ and they act like one. Truth is Danny; you’re the only child here. Grow up, shut up, and stop derailing every thread with your nonsense.

Yes, you were wrong from the beginning about the online performances, I and some others were right. There is no need for us to say we were wrong. We don’t hate you for being wrong, there is no need to be mad about it, we don’t care that you were wrong; we understand that it’s not for you, we've heard you say over and over that you don’t want to do online shows, there is nothing wrong with that, so please just get over it and move on. I doubt that you can, but you should at least try. Start the New Year right.

Happy New Year
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Oh no. Tom doesn't think I'm a professional what will I do? How can I go on?

And I wasn't wrong about online shows. My point was about the future and we are not there yet. You don't just get to declare you're right lol.

Tom YOU have no experience with online shows yet you comment. Hmmm. Irony much? Matter of fact you have no experience in 90% of what you do comment on yet you do it. So now suddenly there is a rule about not commenting without experience? I hope e can hold you to this moving forward.

And Tom YOU DID THIS AGAIN. Brian and I said to move forward being positive at my suggestion and WE DID. YOU AND THOMAS are stirring the pot. So who is the child? Did anyone call you a jerk? Tom it is all on you. If you stop having to be the last word and name calling and move on none of this would happen.

Nice way trying to spin with pop psychology that may work at the daycare but not with adults.
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Its 2021 and yesterday I just received my second dose of the Operation Warp Speed Corona vaccine. I have a refreshed look at the magical business world. Only problem is the world is now virtual. So much for getting back on stage. Lets please all get along and get our remote world business going (if not already). I am a bit behind because even though live shows were coming in, the latest spike has closed those doors again.

My latest live performance has now turned into virtual and since I already have been paid, its time to reinvent the wheel. I have been taking a sabbatical for a while from the Café but now I am back and need Team Café to rise above our differences and help one another in our virtual performing world. Especially me. Thanks.

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Welcome back! We knew you'd take to doing the virtual shows, lol. What differences are there to rise above specifically?
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Ha Thanks MP. Yeah its been unreal. What a ride. Anyway, I was paid last year for a live college presentation which I worked a year on. Its a talk but with interactive mentalism. They just contacted me and its now virtual. I was paid already last year and no one saw this pandemic lasting this long. At first I thought about giving the money back but its a nonprofit and through donations. I am not tech savy but after sleeping on it I have to meet the challenge. I like Danny am not sold on virtual. One main reason is I know it will not last. I hate to put all my effort into this for one show but since it is in April, I still have time. Most of the material I can still use but cutting out the interactive nature will hurt, especially with filling one hour. I plan on renting a hotel room using their wifi (home will not work). I will buy another lap top if necessary. I figure since they paid me well, whatever I have to spend will be worth it. I am fortunate to be able to wait on live gigs and have much respect for performers who went the full virtual route. Now I am looking for some virtual effects to use. I bought a great board (lottery) all set up from John tailor made for this and no way to use it now.
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I have to say I still think it will not last. BUT then again it HAS lasted WAY longer than I had ever imagined it could have possibly lasted.

Look back. I don't have the time BUT I think my original thoughts were June of 2020. Looks like June of 2021 might not be the outside edge of this thing.

Put aside an political or conspiracy theories about anything. Those don't matter really for how it affects us.

I PERSONALLY would still not get involved in the virtual space for performance. Just not for me and no way I could do it.

Figuring out a way to try to capitalize on this, or in SOME way utilize it seems to be a pretty good idea. I thought originally it was a few months at most. Don't look to me for any predictions LOL.
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Yeah June seems like a good estimate. I agree about virtual but have to make this work. I would not take another one for sure. They obviously know the original plan was live and it was postponed. They will not postpone it again. Hope they will have a little mercy. I know there are some advantages to virtual of course but I am not made for this, especially when its temporary. A scary thought if this was permanent. So many things can go wrong with depending on modern technology. Heck, look at sound systems. I could write a book on those nightmares.

I have powerpoint slides that I can add to. Now to figure out how to use them over Zoom or whatever new invention they will use. Smile
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On Jan 22, 2021, Decomposed wrote:
I plan on renting a hotel room using their wifi (home will not work). I will buy another lap top if necessary..


I'll highly recommend against using hotel wifi. I posted a youtube video on page.11 from Xavier Spade who is doing an amazing tutorial on the tech side of doing virtual performance. Highly recommend you check it out as it breaks down the internet speed you need and also the type of computers you'll need. Here's a new episode on the type of cameras you'll need:


Get a Cat-7 Ethernet Cable my friend. Last thing you'll want is to have a weak wifi internet connection which makes your video looks laggy.
Here's one I picked up from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Ethernet-......EXJVGYF7

good luck yo
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Exactly. Public wifi of any sort is not the best option.
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Thanks a bunch. That option off the table for sure. Already all over this. Nash that is very helpful. Going to dissect and absorb.
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Well my big zoom gig finally bit the dust. I have to refund the full amount unfortunately. Getting use to it and its the last refund I have to do. Its not their fault. It started as a live gig and tickets were sold. No one willing to pay for virtual when most are free according to the firm marketing person.

Lessons learned, zoom is ready and will be so when future bookings come in. I learned a lot and purchases I made will be a great help. PowerPoint ready as well. Webcams have come a long way. May the virus end soon and everyone back to somewhat normalcy.
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Sorry to hear you had to issue a refund. It makes me wonder has anyone else here had to actually issue refunds?

Out of all of the bookings I had (tour dates and individual dates), as well as all of my agency's bookings, not one required a refund. There are many steps that could be taken before having to resort to a refund, so I'm curious - has anyone else here had to issue refunds?
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I had to do one refund. I technically didn’t have to, but it was for a grad night in a really small town and my deposit being returned did a lot for the students. I feel really bad for the kids last year and the seniors this year. Bad situation for everyone, but it seems unfair all these students didn’t get a normal senior year.
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Yeah I had one refund for the Bash corporate and a nonprofit one because donors now. I think after the second postponement and uncertainty. Still not final final but they cannot wait another year.
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The Magic Soiree was just recognized by their Chamber of Commerce for pivoting their operations. Nice to see Sarah and Keith be recognized for their efforts. They did an uplifting Zoom lecture for our IBM Ring during the height of the pandemic. That is another area of magic that had to be fleet of foot.

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