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I have heard that the Magic Castle was a place where plots were hatched and cover-ups organized.
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... and kept in secret notebooks that are copied by hand...
So far not so many stories about the hotel across the street.
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"From the day in 1942 when GEHLEN first articulated to WESSEL his conviction that Germany's defeat in World War II would be followed by the emergence of two great power blocs headed by Russia and America, he has been an unwavering advocate of an Atlantic Community. To achieve this, he foresaw an absolute necessity for a Bonn-Washington alliance enjoying undisputed priority in the new German foreign policy. A German-French rapprochement as the basis for uniting Europe was granted undisputed second priority. Bringing the British into the European family was always regarded as an essential though difficult third step. Underlying. this formulation of the. new world in which Germany would arise from defeat was the oft-voiced conviction that "the National State" and "European Nationalism" would not be important in a world dominated by the immense power of Russia and the U.S."

Part of the the declassified Gehlen file.

So Gehlen not only came up with the idea for a CIA and NATO but also the EU.

Yet the Bilderberg got the credit for that.
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On Sep 20, 2020, Jonathan Townsend wrote:

So far not so many stories about the hotel across the street.


If you insist:

https://jackshalom.net/2015/03/21/knight......-castle/

Steve Spill talks about Francis Carlyle at the Nirvana Hotel.
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John Mulholland was an American magician, author, publisher and ... During the Cold War, Mulholland was paid by the CIA to write a manual on deception and misdirection, they say.

He was not German was he?
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On May 11, 2020, landmark wrote:

All too often the term is used to squash further discussion of certain issues...


Amen. The implication is that people who believe in conspiracy theories are gullible and ignorant.

No discussion needed.
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In most cases it is born out to be true.
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<BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell
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The truth will out as they say. They normally let it out after a 101 years when nobody cares.
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...two great power blocs headed by Russia and America, he has been an unwavering advocate of ...
Realpolitik. Currently phrased as welcoming the new overlords.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lcUHQYhPTE

Facts and relevant truths are not so satisfying as social confirmation or vindication.

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Where did you get that enigma machine from?
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Discussing confidence games - okay or no? For example, why "the hype" is demonstrated in three card monte.

There was a comment long ago about Kennedy getting elected; that his father did not want to buy any extra votes.

Conspiracy theory as acceptable substitute for direct discussion?
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@tommy, rumor has it that he was more of a talker than a listener or manipulator.

Perhaps folks recall the song that ends "And I'm learning Chinese says Werner Von Brown"
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Misdirected discussion more like.
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On Sep 26, 2020, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
@tommy, rumor has it that he was more of a talker than a listener or manipulator.

Perhaps folks recall the song that ends "And I'm learning Chinese says Werner Von Brown"


"Once the rockets go up, who cares where they come down?
That's not my department
Says Werner Von Braun"
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Misdirection works. Smile From topic to brand messages.
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There's a criticism about information coming from personal observation versus a network of sources.

Here's something a little more current: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/77879263#p77890293
A whine about WINE or a legit concern that the product is likely vulnerable to buyout (or worse)?
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Where is Alan Turing when we need him?

As we know, conspiracy theory as a phenomenon is defined as a populist tool for relocation of power among different political actors, which creates identities and boosts social cohesion and this interpretation of conspiracy theories helps us investigate how the media constructed the image of Pussy Riot. And we also know that General Gehlen, who lived in Martin Bormann’s old house after the war, asserted Bormann, who was one of Hitler's closest aides, had been a Soviet agent and escaped to the Russians when Berlin fell in 1945 and more recently, the Fourth Reich has risen in the Ukraine according to Angela Merkel.
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That was a CIA criticism of Gehlen.
@tommy, your sources? Guesses below:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/......43C20545
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05......g-fired/

Why this fascination with debatable trivia or Germany around WWII? Does Pepsi dissolve teeth faster than Coke?
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The Museum of Hoaxes:

http://hoaxes.org/
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We all live in the New World Order created by German Intelgence Service after World War II and so it is current and relative to what is and has has been going on. It is superficial to look at what is going on today whithout looking back to see where it came from and the big picture. Not all but most Government plotss since World War II are related to what we call the Cold War. Whaat does Pepsi and Coke have to do with the price of fish?
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