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DavidMac
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I was wondering how everyone is adapting their sets to a more contactless, socially distanced environment or whether people are waiting for old normality to return?

I've not performed for about a year, it's been a paid hobby but a change in job 18 months ago meant I've not really had time. Having spent a long time sorting sets where the majority of the effects happen in the spectator's hands, I now find myself looking at changing routines or looking at alternative affects taking the magic out of the hands and what feels like reach of spectators.

At present the opportunities for walk around aren't available so reviewing what I do seems the right thing to be doing, but even the simple act of having a card signed or a billet written on seems a long way off.

I suppose the current circumstances will drive creativity in some.

I've got visions of being stuck in a corner of a wedding or party with a table performing a parlor set rather than close up.

Just wondered what everyone's thoughts are...

Thanks
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It is not as long off as it seems.
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Work the new "rules" into your comedy. Before you hand someone (for example) the coin or ring to hold, make a hand sanitizer packet appear and wait for them, impatiently tapping your foot, while they sanitize their hands. Before you hand them a pen to sign the card from an appropriately "social distance" (as far as your arms can reach out) spray the pen with sanitizer. Bless the objects you handle with the "magician's blessing" - I use: "Hocus Pocus Two Two Oh". Remember, they have all been going through this, too, and will enjoy making fun of the situation.
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On Jun 20, 2020, Dannydoyle wrote:
It is not as long off as it seems.


That is true, it may not be far off but people's uncertainty will remain long after we return to normal and we'll have to work with it.
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Work the new "rules" into your comedy. Before you hand someone (for example) the coin or ring to hold, make a hand sanitizer packet appear and wait for them, impatiently tapping your foot, while they sanitize their hands. Before you hand them a pen to sign the card from an appropriately "social distance" (as far as your arms can reach out) spray the pen with sanitizer. Bless the objects you handle with the "magician's blessing" - I use: "Hocus Pocus Two Two Oh". Remember, they have all been going through this, too, and will enjoy making fun of the situation.


Good idea taking a lighter look and using comedy your advantage.
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On Jun 20, 2020, Dannydoyle wrote:
It is not as long off as it seems.


That is true, it may not be far off but people's uncertainty will remain long after we return to normal and we'll have to work with it.


No it won't. Look at the pictures of Las Vegas and tell me about "new normal" after reopening.

I believe it will only be a big deal as long as performers make it one.
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Absolutely so true!

Magicians will become their own worst enemy. A new version of stop running when not being chased.
DavidMac
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The US may be different to the UK, given we have only just started having non essential shops opening, kids aren't going back to school until after the summer and employees may not go back to office work until January. Social distancing is very real here.

I personally feel that, at least in the short term, there will be a reluctance from people to get hands on involvement with close up magic and therefore we (or just me) need to look at alternative sets.
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Yea not we.

The ENTIRE POINT of close up magic is right there in the name.
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It is good, perhaps, for magicians to consider what makes Close-up different from other approaches -- what appeals and what does not.

Future choices of venue and style can only benefit from such musing. A possible return to close-up may involve a heightened appreciation.

What of social spacing is reduced but there is a reluctance to handle objects. Has the use of masks increased eye contact reluctance or comfort?

Is the physical touching experience going to be changed? More appreciated or forever fearful?

Not sure about these being "new normal." Perhaps the concept of normal as a standard will have changed.
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Again doubtful. People just won't put up with it. I am living right smack in the middle of a reopened state and tourist area and no new normal exists. Same with Vegas, Daytona and so on. I make no case for it being right or wrong, just that it is.

Look at the political rally, and protests. Sorry new normal will not be a factor long in America.
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The new normal is the same as its always been.

While my fairs are cancelled until July 28, I've been back out on the streets working for the past 3 weeks.

I still get audiences between 50 and probably around 150...

I still pack them in shoulder to shoulder...

Some where stupid masks, but most don't...

Hats are as good as ever...

People still hang out. after each. show to talk and take photos...

People are still shaking hands, high fiving and having fun!

You are the show - Do your show the way you do it - Be confident and your audience will go along for the ride, just like always.
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Wonder why COVID positive tests and death rates are both hitting highest level in Kansas City...
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Personally I don't like the term "new normal" The issue is that every state, county and region are different in their restrictions. I am headed back this Friday to one of my venues. I will hope to be able to do what I always did. However, of course I will be sensitive to the needs of the business as well as the guests concerns. I am axioms to see how it goes.
I have other venues that will not allow any entertainment for a while. We just have to roll with what is in front of us.
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Two perspectives in this discussion. 1. Will spectators be willing to handle your props? There are many truely close up effects that don't require this, colour Monte, crazy man's handcuffs. Sponge balls out and coins across in. 2. What's your risk as a performer. Every card you get selected puts you at risk of exposure. If you do that 50 times a night, your risk goes up.
There is no new normal until we get to normal.
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Imgic,

I'm not busking in Kansas City...

But good attempt at a weak ploy

The Kung Flu has a survival rate of 99.4%

It's only dangerous for .06% of people.

If you believe everything you hear on TV you are in serious trouble.

Furthermore, mandatory masks are idiotic!

After 7 months of the virus, making masks mandatory now, is like wearing a condom to the baby shower.

Wake up and smell the toast burning!!!

America has been played and it will continue... Until the day after the election!
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Without getting into the politics of it nice baby shower joke!

Also those numbers don't add up to 100.
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Whatever your personal conclusion is about the danger/non-danger of this virus, I think we need to be sensitive to the fact that many people are very fearful of it. As a strolling close-up magician we are likely to barge into someone's personal space, uninvited, and make them uncomfortable, or even angry.

I've been thinking about pitching this idea to a client who hires me to do a strolling gig at an outdoor event every 4th of July. Instead of me 'strolling' why not set up a permanent station? Let the people come to me. That way its their choice. If they are super sensitive to being close to someone they can simply walk on. There are certain advantages of this for me also. With a permanent spot I can use a table and do some routines I normally couldn't do.

What do you think?
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Imgic,

I'm not busking in Kansas City...

But good attempt at a weak ploy

The Kung Flu has a survival rate of 99.4%

It's only dangerous for .06% of people.

If you believe everything you hear on TV you are in serious trouble.

Furthermore, mandatory masks are idiotic!

After 7 months of the virus, making masks mandatory now, is like wearing a condom to the baby shower.

Wake up and smell the toast burning!!!

America has been played and it will continue... Until the day after the election!


Never said you were busking. Just pointing out CDC figures showing increases in your area.

Masks do work. It helps to wear them now. And it’s dangerous to everyone. I work in a hospital system. I see this first hand. But doubt any rationale discussion with you will change your mind.

Good luck to you and all those around you not social distancing or being considerate to others by masking...
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Well maybe if they hadn't lied to us in the beginning it would be easier for people to see masks work. And isn't that the trouble with lying?

You work in the hospital system and that is where people go who are the worst odd with everything. It is a very skewed perspective. Not an invalid one but a skewed one.
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