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In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell TheMightyRicardo Loyal user 204 Posts Posted: Jun 30, 2020 11:44 am    0 I just did the math, Danny. It all depends on the numbers you are using. PS. If there are about 2,500,000 cases in the US then 1% of that is 25,000. We know far more than that have died so the death percent cannot be less than 1%. Yes, I agree, there is so much politics and distortion, you have to work to find the real situation. Dannydoyle Eternal Order 20533 Posts Posted: Jun 30, 2020 11:52 am    1 Yea did you read the CDC links and such I provided to show you what is wrong with the math you were doing? Danny Doyle
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In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell TheMightyRicardo Loyal user 204 Posts Posted: Jun 30, 2020 12:22 pm    0 Hi Danny, Yes I did. I think the report has confused the death rate and percentage (mathematically they are different). I used percentage to be clear. I am glad you find the 5% death percentage to be scary. It means that 95% of those who catch the disease will survive. If you are healthy and below 60 years old your chances of surviving are much higher. I heard a political pundit debate that it was worth it to open up the economy again. Anyway the numbers will change slightly from day to day, but if you look at the total cases in the US and you know the total deaths in the US, you can calculate the percentage for yourself. (Why are you relying on reports, when you yourself claim there are so many distortions out there?) Would any mathematicians care to comment? Dannydoyle Eternal Order 20533 Posts Posted: Jun 30, 2020 01:23 pm    0 Yea 95% survival isn't bad huh? Again I guess the CDC knows less than you because it is their numbers. Danny Doyle
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In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell TheMightyRicardo Loyal user 204 Posts Posted: Jun 30, 2020 03:02 pm    0 Yes, but 5% death is scary, as you said. As you emphatically said, don't just believe the reports - I agree. Your reply sounds sarcastic, so I am not sure you accept your own arguments. You sent me the CDC reports "So I could see where I was wrong". You "guess that the CDC knows less than me." I accept the CDC as a scientific organization, but the reporter seems to have mistakenly quoted the unit rate as the percentage rate. Looking at the numbers, the CDC implies less than 1%, which looks wrong)? To see through the "lies and distortions" that you talk about, why not just work out the percentage of deaths yourself. Get a calculator and a source of US cases vs US deaths and work it out yourself. What do YOU get? Dannydoyle Eternal Order 20533 Posts Posted: Jun 30, 2020 03:05 pm    0 Because we don't have a proper T value for the equation. Which incidentally has been the problem from the start. Without knowing exactly, or close to how many people are actually infected there is no real way to get a death rate of any reliability. It is based on models, much like weather and we know how accurate THAT can be. If 2,000,000 are infected then 130,000 is a serious number. BUT if 20,000,000 are infected and 130,000 are dead, maybe it is not as serious huh? Antibody tests seem to suggest we are WAY off an amount of infected people, and therefore the rate of death. Danny Doyle
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In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell TheMightyRicardo Loyal user 204 Posts Posted: Jun 30, 2020 03:28 pm    0 Agreed. 130,000 is a serious number out of the current cases. I am in Florida for a week, so I am keeping track daily. Dannydoyle Eternal Order 20533 Posts Posted: Jun 30, 2020 04:07 pm    0 Yea the more learned the more that this is not so scary. But I AM IN NO WAY telling anyone to not wear masks, not saying don't social distance and not saying to flaunt the guidelines. Just pointing out inconvenient truths is all. Danny Doyle
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