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Bill Hegbli
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Another thing to consider, is if what lies on the floor after throwing up the rope and cut pieces into the air, how can that be considered a restoration. Clearly the pieces are lying there for all to see.
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I agree with the weaknesses of this little trick.

I guess you'd have to see it performed or perform it yourself to test the strength of the illusion. For all its perceived weaknesses it does work.

The effect is a 6 foot length of rope is knotted and cut. Two pieces of rope hang from the knot. The two lengths of rope are knotted and cut. Note the rope has apparently been cut into fourths and held together by two knots.

The knots are trimmed a bit then the rope is pulled and the two knots "pop" off and drop to the floor (along with the short pieces cut from the knots). The rope is no longer cut into fourths but has been magically restored to one length of rope.

The Cons: It is not the strongest cut and restored rope routine available. It does consume rope. It does leave a bit of debris to be cleaned up. There is the inconsistency of there being some bits of rope (the knots) that are not part of the restoration.

The Pros: It is remarkably easy to perform. it is visual. It is magical. It is surprising. It is a short routine. The rope may be used for a prequel and/or or follow-up routine.

It is not a bad trick per se but there may be others better suited for your taste and performance style. Your mileage may vary.
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On Jul 21, 2020, Bill Hegbli wrote:
This is one of the worst Cut and Restored effects I have ever ran across. I can't believe Himber would put out something so terrible. Not to mention the littering of the venue that hired you.


I’ve seen several magicians toss out small pieces of rope, knots, etc. as part of the routine. Including Mac King and Pop Haydn. Littering shouldn’t be too much of a concern, this isn’t snowstorm confetti or glitter.

This sounds like an interesting routine, I’ll probably buy it for the $5
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On Jul 20, 2020, Bill Hegbli wrote:
I purchased the Himber manuscript. I found a flaw in the description. They do not tell you what to do with the cut off ends in the right hand.


You are so right Bill.
Firstly, there is hardly any written instructions and the illustrations left out quite a bit. I had to figure out the handling, it's a fabulous cut and restored effect. It looks like you do really cut the rope in four pieces.
The few times I've done it for a crowd, it really got a great reaction. I even had a few of my magic friends wanting a repeat.
The rope I use to practice was bought from Home Depot (EVERBILT) I use the smaller size. If you cut a piece a bit longer 6 ft, you can do it 3 times.
You just have to get the handling down properly.
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[quote]On Jul 21, 2020, Bill Hegbli wrote:
I now see that on page eleven it does mention the right hand. I missed it several times.

Why would those knots be held in the right hand so long, and the drawing suggests them being concealed from view of the audience.

This is one of the worst Cut and Restored effects I have ever ran across. I can't believe Himber would put out something so terrible. Not to mention the littering of the venue that hired you. [/quo

I enjoy your posts and in agreement with you most of the time.
I did Himber's cut and restored rope yesterday at an open space party where there were kids and adults. the applause was tremendous. It seems as if you really cut the rope in four pieces. and as you know ,it's the routine that counts.
The manuscript left out a few important information. Himber thinks that every magician should know how to tie that kind of knot.
I use a 7 ft length, this allows for 2 or 3 performances. I practiced with rope I bought from Home Depot---cheap rope.
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On Jul 21, 2020, Bill Hegbli wrote:
I now see that on page eleven it does mention the right hand. I missed it several times.

Why would those knots be held in the right hand so long, and the drawing suggests them being concealed from view of the audience.

This is one of the worst Cut and Restored effects I have ever ran across. I can't believe Himber would put out something so terrible. Not to mention the littering of the venue that hired you.


I enjoy your posts and in agreement with you most of the time.

I did Himber's cut and restored rope yesterday at an open space party where there were kids and adults. The applause was tremendous. It seems as if you really cut the rope in four pieces. And as you know ,it's the routine that counts.

The manuscript left out a few important information. Himber thinks that every magician should know how to tie that kind of knot.
I use a 7 ft length, this allows for 2 or 3 performances. I practiced with rope I bought from Home Depot --- cheap rope.

-Tricky Ricky


This is interesting to read that you've had success with it, Ricky. I have to admit , after purchasing the manuscript I was also underwhelmed by the procedure described. It seemed to me like a lot of extra moves to do a cut and restored rope effect. It struck me that there are much simpler and direct ways of cutting and restoring a rope.

(I tend to prefer simplicity in tricks. I was recently re-reading the book "Malini And His Magic" - by Dai Vernon and Lewis Ganson. On page 39 it is mentioned that Malini once witnessed another well-known magician perform a rope routine involving the cutting and restoring of rope four or five times. Malini watched him perform the trick, then shook his head , and said: "No good. Too complicated. Cut the rope once and restore it -- that's enough!" That little story made me think of this Himber trick.)

This trick seemed to me to be a clever thing that Himber came up with to fool other magicians (note U.F. Grant's reaction in the ad for the trick that I posted earlier in this thread), but not something I would probably perform. But as I said previously, I haven't rehearsed this enough yet to try it out on anyone , so I'm still on the fence about this trick , however your report of having success with it makes me curious to perform it.


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On Jul 30, 2020, TrickyRicky wrote:
And as you know ,it's the routine that counts.


This is one of the weaknesses of the manuscript. It's only a bare bones description of the moves necessary to achieve the effect (and even then some things have been left out or not made clear enough), but there is no presentation suggested. Of course , if the effect is strong enough that could be a blessing in disguise , because it forces one to come up with their own unique presentation rather than using "canned" patter like where many magicians will simply use the exact same words for presenting something like the Professor's Nightmare or some such trick , because those are the words that were printed with the instructions.
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